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   1. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Rex Gozar)
   2. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Wjhonson)
   3. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Rex Gozar)
   4. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Wjhonson)
   5. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (George Gallen)
   6. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Rex Gozar)
   7. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Don Robinson)
   8. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement. (Don Robinson)
   9. Re: Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.
      (Keith Johnson [DATACOM])
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:30:09 -0400
From: Rex Gozar <rgo...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.
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It does not matter if a system is old or not, you gotta keep it up to
date.  "Maintenance programming" means adding LOCKED clauses that
should have been there in the first place.  I doubt it would take more
than a few hours; probably less time than writing and debugging some
off-the-wall input timer routine.  There probably aren't that many
critical READU's.  On my system, for the number of programs I have in
the system, I only have a third as many READU's.
rex


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:37:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.
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"On your system", as you said, versus in the rest of the programming world, 
where a programmer works for a manager, who works for another manager, who 
reports to a committee, who reports to the CEO, who gets funded by sometimes 
not so understanding money guys.

Rex we don't have the luxury of being in the decision chair to make such 
changes :)
That's the world.

In addition to the non-hot-dog approach of actually testing your changes... on 
three hundred programs, or three thousand.




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It does not matter if a system is old or not, you gotta keep it up to
ate.  "Maintenance programming" means adding LOCKED clauses that
hould have been there in the first place.  I doubt it would take more
han a few hours; probably less time than writing and debugging some
ff-the-wall input timer routine.  There probably aren't that many
ritical READU's.  On my system, for the number of programs I have in
he system, I only have a third as many READU's.
ex
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:46:24 -0400
From: Rex Gozar <rgo...@gmail.com>
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The OP's system probably doesn't have three thousand READU statements;
I'm willing to guess a few hundred.  And out of that few hundred,
maybe a dozen of those READU's block user access during normal
day-to-day operation.  And yet a CEO, manager, whatever wouldn't have
a problem implementing some input-timing thingy?

rex


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:51:43 -0400 (EDT)
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I believe he was discussing putting that on a *single* program, not every 
program.
I would strongly advise against putting a creature like that on every program.
That's the sort of change that can bring a fast machine to its knees.



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The OP's system probably doesn't have three thousand READU statements;
'm willing to guess a few hundred.  And out of that few hundred,
aybe a dozen of those READU's block user access during normal
ay-to-day operation.  And yet a CEO, manager, whatever wouldn't have
 problem implementing some input-timing thingy?
rex
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:54:42 -0500
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Subject: Re: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.
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The tough part isn't so much the qty of but knowing which ones are the important
Ones that will most likely be affected. Depending on the turnover of staff, the
Current staff might not know the code that well, and pinpointing the top 
programs
That should be converted first could be a shot in the dark.

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Subject: Re: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.

The OP's system probably doesn't have three thousand READU statements;
I'm willing to guess a few hundred.  And out of that few hundred,
maybe a dozen of those READU's block user access during normal
day-to-day operation.  And yet a CEO, manager, whatever wouldn't have
a problem implementing some input-timing thingy?

rex
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:57:12 -0400
From: Rex Gozar <rgo...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.
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He already has the use-case; someone in some specific screen/program
is getting locked out.  That's where you start.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:54 PM, George Gallen <ggal...@wyanokegroup.com> wrote:
> The tough part isn't so much the qty of but knowing which ones are the 
> important
> Ones that will most likely be affected. Depending on the turnover of staff, 
> the
> Current staff might not know the code that well, and pinpointing the top 
> programs
> That should be converted first could be a shot in the dark.


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:11:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Don Robinson <donr_w...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.
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David,
?
Good idea.
?
Revised code.
?
* Don Robinson
* Testing the INPUTIF statement.
*
PROMPT ''
*
ZZ = ''
FOR X = 1 TO 100? ;* Loop for 10 seconds.
?? INPUTIF ZZ THEN EXIT
?? NAP 100
NEXT X
*
IF ZZ = '' THEN
?? CRT 'The user is sleeping....'
?? STOP? ;* Do whatever you want here.
END ELSE
*
* User entered something, proceed as usual.
*
?? CRT
?? CRT 'User entered: ': ZZ
END
*
STOP
END

Thanks,
Don Robinson

From: David A. Green <dgr...@dagconsulting.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] Detecting idle time in INPUT statement.

Don,

You should at least optimize the code by just checking a counter and not
messing with TIME().? Your NAP command automatically takes care of the
amount of time spent in each loop.? You just need to count how many NAPs it
takes to equal the amount of wait time you wish to have.

David A. Green
(480) 813-1725
DAG Consulting

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