(Ad) XLr8Editor allows u to edit data, programs with out a refresh option, and 
any thing else.  With our continuous compile option, you only see the real 
compiler errors.  We have a before read option and and after write option to 
handle PRC.  However our editor works with Git, Svn, Team Foundation and 
others, so U2 can play in sandbox too.

Doug
U2logic.com/tools.html

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On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Daniel McGrath <dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com> wrote:

> Hi Mecki,
> 
> It sounds like you are running a old copy of BDT. Unassigned variable 
> warnings from CALL statements was fixed sometime last year. Follow the 
> instructions here (http://updates.rocketsoftware.com/u2/) to make sure you 
> have the latest versions. I can't recall which version, but if you are on too 
> old of a release, that update site won't work for you, so you would have to 
> download the full version again before you can use it. The latest full 
> package is MAR2013.
> 
> Regards,
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:22 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work
> 
> I'll keep that refresh option in mind.
> Still a hassle and I would prefer if they would just get rid of that 
> 'feature'.
> I also noticed that unassigned variable error that pops up for all functions 
> including CALL that return a new variable.
> Some people may regard assigning a value before you use a function as good 
> coding standard, I don't see the point, though.
> I haven't tried this in anger, but I recall that BDT treats all files as data 
> files and you can edit data as well.
> Maybe this is a feature they could add to keep Dict files and hashed files 
> separate so you don't have to look for the BP within 1000 data files every 
> time.
> 
> I have been using an external editor (mv developer) for several years now.
> I always save the program to disk, open it with ED, add a blank line 
> somewhere and file it with FIBC.
> That takes care of PRC.
> Locking works when you open a program externally, so the only chance that 
> someone could snatch the program ab incorporate it into another project is in 
> that short period between saving in the external editor and opening it with 
> ED on the UD server for the first time.
> Since I am the only UD programmer in the company it is virtually impossible 
> that will ever happen.
> Well, and as long as you have OS.ED you can bypass PRC anyway.
> OK, if you NEVER EVER fix data with ED then you could probably remove it, but 
> who would voluntarily block the only fire escape?
> 
> We have a really old version of PRC (3.9) and I can't make a business case to 
> invest in new software.
> There are other tools like mv.SSIS that I'd rather get first.
> Especially since tools like Rocket's Metadata Manager don't seem to work or I 
> am too stupid to install them properly.
> I managed to get at least VSG to work on one SQL Server 2008 box, but that is 
> a really primitive tool and I hate it.
> 
> And I am still looking for a way to read data from a relational database in a 
> Basic program.
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2013 18:30, Tom Whitmore wrote:
>> Hi Mecki,
>> 
>> One think that I always do with BDT is right-click on the program, select 
>> refresh, then open the program.  That seems to be the only way to make sure 
>> I have the current version.
>> 
>> Currently, BDT is sort of working with PRC but it isn't honoring "file 
>> ownership" so I'm unable to let the programmers use BDT.  You do need to get 
>> some programs from Susan for things to work as I have it now.  I'm told the 
>> latest version of PRC supports BDT.  We are currently testing the new 
>> version of PRC but I haven't had an opportunity to try BDT on this version..
>> 
>> As far as false errors, the latest version of BDT is greatly improved.  
>> However, I have noticed couple of false errors:
>> 1) if the numeric subroutine label does not have a ":" BDT doesn't recognize 
>> the label (like 99*).
>> 2) LOCATE(J,ORIG.PH,2;XXXPOS) THEN FOUND=1 ELSE FOUND=0 , BDT will report 
>> that XXXPOS was never assigned a value.  There are other instances of this 
>> type of problem.
>> 
>> One thing I wish I could do is edit records in hashed files, but I don't see 
>> how to accomplish this.
>> 
>> Tom Whitmore
>> RATEX Business Solutions
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
>> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:06 PM
>> To: U2 Users List
>> Subject: [U2] How do I get the U2 Metadata Manager to work
>> 
>> Ever since we finally upgraded UniData at work I have been trying out the 
>> new tools and don't seem to have much fun with them.
>> The best one is XAdmin and I use it a lot these days.
>> 
>> IMHO the interface is a bit crude and clunky, but I guess that's Eclipse and 
>> you can't do much about that.
>> The BDT is not of much use since I need to make tweaks of the program using 
>> AE (even if it only to make PRC work) but when I then open it again in BDT 
>> it reverts to the old version. Looks like it keeps that in memory on my PC 
>> so any changes made on the server are lost.
>> Looks nice and shiny but the syntax check isn't really working either.
>> 99% of the errors shown turn out to be no errors at all.
>> 
>> The latest one I tried is the Metadata Manager.
>> It installed fine and I can connect to the server and the database no 
>> problem.
>> I can see the files and the dictionaries and can even change data on the 
>> server but that's it.
>> The metadata tools I want to use are all greyed out, so what am I doing 
>> wrong?
>> 
>> As stated in the Help I ran MIGRATE.SQL on the server but all I achieved is 
>> that I now cannot change anything using the old Avante Batch Schema 
>> Generation process. It goes through the motions but just hangs up at the end 
>> now.
>> 
>> So at the end I am not overly impressed.
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