I totally agree with Brenda and Bill. Work sent Brooke and I to Epicor's
Unidata and Pick classes in California, I only had Novell and Microsoft when
I was hired.
I picked up Unix, Unidata, redback and DBMS from classes provided by work.
19 years later, Brooke and I are self sufficient. We show up on time and put
in
whatever necessary to complete our tasks. We learn everything in sight. We
would be hard pressed if one or both of us got hit by a bus. I'm expected to
be 24 hours
a day / seven days a week and Brooke fills in when I can't. I run into very
few people with our work ethic anymore.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda Ives" <bren...@marketamerica.com>
To: "'U2 Users List'" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
How about the other end here?
By other end, I mean this. What about someone in college or out of
college with a degree other than an IT subject or if with an IT degree or
working on one, who has been taught by someone with over 20 years of
experience outside of college but the student/graduate has no employment
history of what has been taught them outside of college. Plus they meet
all 3 of your requirements listed below?
UniVerse/UniData/D3/JBASE/CACHE is not taught in colleges and if we don't
teach them what happens when all of us oldies are gone?
Brenda
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:41 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Kevin:
After actually hiring a lot of people, and firing those that needed it,
I've come to the conclusion that all employers need a person with the
following three attributes:
1) An ability, and willingness, to be on-time,
2) An ability, and willingness, to be presentable in all business
situations, and
3) An ability, and willingness, to learn what they don't know (which is
always a lot!).
The people coming out of college these days are mostly unemployable.
Today's bachelors degree is like a 1930 8th grade education, or a 1970
high school education. So, no matter what any Human Services dweeb says,
getting someone to show up looking presentable and willing to work
whatever it takes to learn what they don't know is gold! These kinds of
people are quite trainable and, considering all software frameworks have a
short shelf life anyway, offer a lot of flexibility for your purposes.
Just a thought. :-)
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* ke...@precisonline.com
*To:* U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
*Date:* 10/11/2013 9:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Unfortunately, in one case I hired a friend. Needless to say, it was
one of the worst decisions I've made. Not only lost a friend, but
lost a lot of customer confidence by her attitude, poor workmanship,
and unwillingness to adapt.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Robert Frailey
<rfrai...@utahmed.com>wrote:
Wow, seen a lot of that and managers trying to get friends hired to
create a perfect office society.
quit hiring backstabbing chaff
with their own agendas.
Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin King"
<ke...@precisonline.com>
To: "Susan Joslyn" <sjos...@sjplus.com>; "U2 Users List" <
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Susan, yes. I've been very open in my interviews, and it's netted
significantly regrettable results. So this time I'm going for
people who can get behind and contribute to the common cause as soon
after hire as possible. I don't have any aspirations of hiring for
life, though I certainly do endeavor to have that kind of an
environment for a person who wants that sort of thing. I just need
to quit hiring backstabbing chaff with their own agendas.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Susan Joslyn <sjos...@sjplus.com>
wrote:
Kevin,
Not that I have any real experience - at least not for what seems
like a lifetime - with hiring. But my instinct might be to let the
applicant tell me whatever they want. You know, just an open ended
"Tell me what you would like me to know about your skills, your
ambitions and your work ethic."
Probably that's an approach you've already tried.
Susan
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Interviewer: What is one of your weak points?
Applicant: My honesty.
Interviewer: I would have thought that was a strong point.
Applicant: I don't give a %^&* what you think you stupid ^&^%$
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