Does the requirement to have no client-side setup (other than pointing a
user to a web page in a std web browser) eliminate accuterm or not?  If not,
then does this permit drop-down boxes, combo boxes, calendars for date entry
and the usual icons one might expect for various features?

I'm talking about the U2 database, but the tools on the mv side need not be
more than UOJ, for example (with support for update of stored fields and
preferably also virtual fields as read-only). 

Thanks.  --dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

Take and give some delight today.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:28 PM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: Re: GUI or Event ? as nice as character-based

Clarify.  Are you talking about *within* the mv environment? Or an outside
app?

Accuterm has the ability to recognize where a mouse-click is in regards to
(col, row).  This is the same col, row that PRINT @ uses.  Now if your mv
programs have a single, standard INPUT subroutine then you can simply modify
that subroutine.

So your modification would look something like
If I.am.using.accuterm then
   if mouseclick then
      get.location; determine.which.field; reset fieldno = this.field
      redo.input = true; return
   end
end else
   input xxx
end

Or something along those lines.
I have only seen one application package that integrated this ability,
however, the screen drivers it built allowed the user to point-and-click and
enter data into any field in any order on the screen.  It was then up to the
programmer to ensure that intra-field dependencies were properly handled.
But it was certainly a good start.

Is that what you meant?
Will

In a message dated 4/19/2004 2:17:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I haven't gotten through all of the postings in the GUI thread as yet, but
> am working on the question of how to write a GUI that is as good as a
"green
> screen" from the perspective of folks currently using a green screen
> application.  I saw hints at that, but nothing that tackled it from the
> standpoint of being able to use any tools on the market today to
accomplish
> this (no need to retain databasic code, for example).
> 
> What could be used to actually replace, completely, the character screens?
> 
> Requirements:
> 0) work with U2 as multiuser databases
> 
> 1) Be able to use any Windows, new Mac (unix) or Linux client
> 2) Have graphically attractive & colorful screens, looking enough like
> standard GUIs (M$, in particular) that users would understand the use of
> icons, etc.
> 3) Respond to keystrokes by users -- not only to the click of a "submit"
> button
> 4) Require no preparation of the client computers in advance of using the
> software, likely directing user to a web page.
> 5) "type ahead" can be done so that the user is not waiting constantly for
> the computer to respond
> 6) Heads down data entry folks are as happy with this as they were with
> their green screens when they first got those and have only minor
complaints
> if converting now from a green screen, none of substance
> 
> What are the options -- who has written or seen such a GUI? 
>  --dawn
> 
> Dawn M. Wolthuis
> Tincat Group, Inc.
> www.tincat-group.com
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