Hmmm. Are you saying 'Ogres' are like onions?

On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 07:05, Scott Richardson wrote:
> Performance of UV applications on various Operating Systems
> is not rocket science. Perhaps better described as large, nasty
> tight onions that need peeling, one layer at a time, and
> understanding what each peeled layer is doing and why.
> Once this knowledge is acquired and understood, a plan can
> be built and executed to attack/resolve the problem.
> 
> Are users logging out/off when they're done using the system,
> or when they've completed some large tasks or operations?
> How often is the system rebooted?
> RAID 5 file systems can slow down IO.
> We'll need specifics on file system setup and parameters.
> How many users? What are these users doing?
> Have you got everyone and their siblings all running SELECT and
> SORT operations all the time? Data Entry out the wazoo?
> 
> How big are the files, and how are they sized? How frequently
> does data change in the files, (grow, shrink, etc...)
> 
> How big is your /tmp file system, and what kind of file system,
> and where is it physically located?? Provide it it's own file system,
> on it's own disk or disk set, (i.e. not the same disks where other
> activity is going on).
> 
> 4GB of RAM, yet only 4 GB paging/swap space?
> Where is this swap paging space, (i.e. what disks?)
> 
> "topas" may be fine for quick and dirty analysis and understanding,
> but using it extensively can help contribute to performance problems.
> 
> You need to configure and tune the platform, the OS, the UV DB,
> the IO sub-system,  the applications, the users, and the
> administration/operations, and thenensure they're all coordinated
> with each other, to maximize platform performance.
> 
> To find, (and therefore address & resolve), the root causes of what
> is happening here, you need to profile the platform using something
> such as the DPMonitor, (extremely low-overhead monitoring Agent)
> and display/crunch the performance metrics on another platform,
> (i..e. a Windows Performance Explorer Console). Using this method,
> you'll be able completely profile the entire platform, (OS and
> applications),
> around the clock, and then easily dial into specific timeframes where
> problems are occurring, and fully understand exactly what is happening
> and learn why it is happening, so it can be addressed and resolved,
> and measure the progress along the entire way.
> 
> The DPMonitor is available with a free 10 day evaluation license where it
> will track system-wide performance metrics. Fully licensed version will
> track individual processes that you select, or all processes if you so
> desire. When you monitor all of the processes, you can quickly and
> easily identify processes deserving further analysis, and stop tracking
> processes that are not casuing any problems. More information on the
> DPMonitor can be found at http://www.deltek.us and the DPMonitor
> can be downloaded right off the website. If you're short on memory,
> DPMonitor will allow you to see how much memory you will need to
> allow the system to run as fast as it can, given how you're running it.
> If you need tuning of OS or UV parameters, or other things that ay be
> playing contributing factor/roles, the DPMonitor will clearly point this
> out,
> grahically, so that anyone can plainly see what is happening.
> 
> Once you make any changes, you'll be able to monitor, and measure,
> any differences, consistently, and prove whether or not you have
> improved, or detrimented, your cause. Best of all, you'll be able to
> show, prove, and justify to  management what you're doing, and
> why, and show them what it will take to get the problems addressed
> and resolved, positively, without question.
> 
> Hope this helps.  I know the DPMonitor can & will help.
> I have used it personally, numerous times, to peel many a complex onion,
> understand what is exactly going on, find out why, and then put together
> and executed plans that have successfully addressed and resolved similar
> problems and streamlined operations moving forward saving many a
> business significant time, frustration, and money, and then ensured that
> any & all operations moving forward were done from a pro-active,
> knowing ahead of time manner, rather than fire-fighting problems on a
> continual basis. If you want something done, why not do it right, once?
> Stop beating your head against the onion wall! Work smarter!
> Let the DPMonitor be your detailed, EKG-like instrument to cut to
> the heart of your complex application server performance problems,
> identify them, and help you to resolve them, quickly and easily.
> 
> 
> Been there, done that.
> Many times over.
> 
> Sincere Regards,
> Scott Richardson
> Senior Systems Engineer / Consultant
> Marlborough, MA 01752
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Foo Chia Teck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:22 AM
> Subject: Performance Degraded running u10.0.0 in Aix 5.2 ML 2
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We are facing performance degraded when running Universe 10.0.0 in AIX 5L
> 5.2.
> 
> A bit intro on hardware specs. We are using pSeries 650 running on SMP 2
> Power4 processor with 4GB of RAM, 4GB Paging size and RAID5 SSA Hard Disk.
> 
> My Universe configuration as below:
> 
> Current tunable parameter settings:
>      MFILES         =   300
>      T30FILE        =   200
>      OPENCHK        =   1
>      WIDE0          =   0x3dc00000
>      UVSPOOL        =   /uvspool1
>      UVTEMP         =   /uvtmp1
>      SCRMIN         =   3
>      SCRMAX         =   5
>      SCRSIZE        =   512
>      QDEPTH         =   16
>      HISTSTK        =   99
>      QSRUNSZ        =   2000
>      QSBRNCH        =   4
>      QSDEPTH        =   8
>      QSMXKEY        =   32
>      TXMODE         =   0
>      LOGBLSZ        =   512
>      LOGBLNUM       =   8
>      LOGSYCNT       =   0
>      LOGSYINT       =   0
>      TXMEM          =   32
>      OPTMEM         =   64
>      SELBUF         =   4
>      ULIMIT         =   128000
>      FSEMNUM        =   23
>      GSEMNUM        =   97
>      PSEMNUM        =   64
>      FLTABSZ        =   11
>      GLTABSZ        =   75
>      RLTABSZ        =   75
>      RLOWNER        =   300
>      PAKTIME        =   5
>      NETTIME        =   5
>      QBREAK         =   1
>      VDIVDEF        =   1
>      UVSYNC         =   1
>      BLKMAX         =   131072
>      PICKNULL       =   0
>      SYNCALOC       =   1
>      MAXRLOCK       =   74
>      ISOMODE        =   1
>      PKRJUST        =   0
>      PROCACMD       =   0
>      PROCRCMD       =   0
>      PROCPRMT       =   0
>      ALLOWNFS       =   0
>      CSHDISPATCH    =   /bin/csh
>      SHDISPATCH     =   /bin/sh
>      DOSDISPATCH    =   NOT_SUPPORTED
>      LAYERSEL       =   0
>      OCVDATE        =   0
>      MODFPTRS       =   1
>      THDR512        =   0
>      UDRMODE        =   0
>      UDRBLKS        =   0
>      MAXERRLOGENT   =   100
>      JOINBUF        =   4095
>      64BIT_FILES    =   0
>      TSTIMEOUT      =   60
>      PIOPENDEFAULT  =   0
>      MAXKEYSIZE     =   255
>      SMISDATA       =   0
>      EXACTNUMERIC   =   15
>      MALLOCTRACING  =   0
>      CENTURYPIVOT   =   1930
>      SPINTRIES      =   0
>      SPINSLEEP      =   10000
>      CONVERT_EURO   =   0
>      SYSTEM_EURO    =   164
>      TERM_EURO      =   164
>      SQLNULL        =   128
> 
> When the uv restarted it run fine for a day before it used up all the CPU
> and memory resources. A fast check on 'topas' show CPU resources used up for
> Kernel and User. There are no free resources on Wait and Idle. Around 70% of
> the CPU resources used for User and 30% used for Kernel.
> 
> On memory side, seem all the physical memory had been consumed up. Even
> Paging space also been used. A quick snapshot on the memory from 'topas' as
> below:
> 
> MEMORY
>  Real,MB    4095
>  % Comp     22.4
>  % Noncomp  76.2
>  % Client   75.1
> 
>  PAGING SPACE
>  Size,MB    4096
>  % Used      1.4
>  % Free     98.5
> 
> When all the physical resources are fully occupied, the Universe processing
> become slow. The only thing I can do now is to restart Universe when the
> performance degraded?
> 
> Are there any performance tuning we need to do on the OS to prevent this
> issue? Or is there any known issue with this version of Universe?
> 
> Please assist me to solve this problem.
> 
> Regard's,
> 
> Foo
> 
> 
> 
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