Adair, That's really interesting, I'll have to try that. So you don't use
UPNP?

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
wrote:

> This is how we set our route mode CPE's and IF anyone has trouble we tell
> them to manually set their router to the DMZ IP (and give them gateway,
> netmask and dns info). If they don't know how to do that. We log in to the
> radio and set the DMZ IP to whatever their router pulled from our radio.
> This setup works perfectly and we never have any problems with any
> services and generally only need to have people set their router in the DMZ
> IF they need port forwarding.
> With this setup the WAN port of the radio (WAN.1201 in the image) is not
> pingable and can not be managed from the internet.
> The only way we can manage CPE's is from the internal network. IF you want
> to access from the internet you'd have to uncheck the "Block Management
> Access" alternatively you may also need to uncheck the DMZ management
> ports. I can't remember. I do NOT want my CPE's to be accessed from the
> outside world in anyway shape or form. With our setup IF they need access
> to something inside this allows that to happen without having to bridge the
> radio. SIP, VPN, Games all work fine.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:58 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I occasionally get complaints that the XBox network test shows
>> ports closed and security cameras aren't viewable remotely. I'll try UPNP.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If there hasn't been an issue yet, then there's probably not a problem.
>>>
>>> Turn on uPNP, call it a day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 28, 2014 2:10:39 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Default open/closed ports - [WAS] DMZ
>>> Management Ports, what are they?
>>>
>>> Mainly be sure I'm not causing issues for customers. Such as XBox or
>>> security cameras not being able to function properly.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What problem are you having that you're trying to solve?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 28, 2014 2:19:56 AM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Default open/closed ports - [WAS] DMZ
>>>> Management Ports, what are they?
>>>>
>>>> True. Perhaps what I need to do on the CPE is set the DHCP range for 1
>>>> IP addy and put that addy in the DMZ? Then the radio wouldn't inadvertently
>>>> block anything.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Mike Hammett <
>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing to open or close.
>>>>>
>>>>> You couldn't set port forwards ahead of time without knowing what they
>>>>> want and where they want it. That's what uPNP is for.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:19:45 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Default open/closed ports - [WAS] DMZ
>>>>> Management Ports, what are they?
>>>>>
>>>>> That helps a lot! I have my customers in router mode with NAT enabled
>>>>> without opening any ports. I really dont get any complaints but I'm trying
>>>>> to be sure I am not causing any undo issues for my customers, so, should I
>>>>> open any ports or is default sufficient?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think there is some confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In router mode with NAT enabled and DMZ disabled the only thing it
>>>>>> will pass to the customer is stuff that is set in the port forwarding
>>>>>> section.  (iptables -t nat -L)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In router mode with NAT enabled and DMZ enabled it will pass
>>>>>> everything to the DMZ IP except management ports (unless DMZ management
>>>>>> ports is checked)  (iptables -t nat -L  will show all ports not passed to
>>>>>> the router).  If DMZ management ports is checked then everything is sent 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the DMZ IP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In router mode without NAT enabled it will route all traffic to the
>>>>>> LAN address space, this means you need to have a subnet on the LAN side
>>>>>> that is routed externally to the radio IP address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In bridge mode all traffic coming in WLAN will be passed to LAN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/26/2014 11:04 AM, RickG wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Sam! With that, should I assume only those ports are being
>>>>>> passed through the UBNT radio to the customer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Sam Tetherow <tethe...@shwisp.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Default should have ports 80, 443, 22 TCP for HTTP, HTTPS and SSH
>>>>>>> as well as 10001 UDP for the discovery protocol.  By open that means 
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> are the only ports on the radio that have something listening on them.  
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> you turn those services off on the services tab then they will no 
>>>>>>> longer be
>>>>>>> listening on those ports.  You can also turn on SNMP (UDP 161) and 
>>>>>>> telnet
>>>>>>> (TCP 23)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To see what ports are being listened on use 'netstat -nl' from the
>>>>>>> command line, to see what ports are being forwarded you can use 
>>>>>>> 'iptables
>>>>>>> -t nat -L'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/25/2014 08:27 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree Mike, however my question is more basic than that. I realize
>>>>>>> that a UBNT radio comes with the firewall turned off and in fact I've 
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> turned it on. So, my question is: Default from the factory, which ports 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> open and/or closed? Obviously most common ports are open. Do I need to 
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> any to prevent any issues?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I think people go a bit excessive with firewalling. If there's no
>>>>>>>> service there to answer, there's no need to firewall it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:00:45 AM
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Default open/closed ports - [WAS] DMZ
>>>>>>>> Management Ports, what are they?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ya, thank goodness for upnp. I'm just trying to understand and be
>>>>>>>> sure I'm not causing any issues for my customers as far as open & 
>>>>>>>> closed
>>>>>>>> ports. Obviously certain ports are open but are they all?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you're behind Nat your Xbox will say closed because they need
>>>>>>>>> to be dstnated.  There's upnp on the later versions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2014 12:28 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I should expect all ports to be open?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are no firewall rules by default.  Nothing is DMZ'ed nor
>>>>>>>>>>> PAT'ed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:25 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This reminded me of a question: What ports are open or closed
>>>>>>>>>>>> by default of a UBNT radio in router mode?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Sam Tetherow <
>>>>>>>>>>>> tethe...@shwisp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definitively list:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP telnet (23)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP http (80)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP https (443)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICMP Echo-Request
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP ssh (22)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP snmp (161)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCP 18888
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UDP discard (9)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UDP 10001 - ubiquiti discovery protocol although it never
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when in DMZ mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any of the services are disabled on the radio then the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ports are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwarded on to the DMZ radio, if the ports are changed on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tab then they will be changed in the DMZ section.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If in doubt, ssh into the radio and run iptables -t nat -L
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/2014 06:36 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I assume 80, 22, 443. What others are there? I can't find it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in any of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the manuals.
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