And on that note, has anyone done a "backhaul bakeoff" lately? I'd like to
know what kind of performance (and cost) is available out there these days!

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

> There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed
> links. Few people have anything bad to say about any of them.
>
>
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> *From: *"Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:59 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>
> That is what I'm thinking Mike, I've already shot an E-mail off to Pete @
> SAF to start looking at some licensed gear.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>
>
>
> You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that
> distance without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based
> with appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150.
> However, a 100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so
> maybe a licensed link is in the budget?
>
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> *From: *"Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>
> Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>
>
>
> As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should
> work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to
> do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than
> that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much
> the whole 5.8ghz band.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>
> http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
> http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf
>
> Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you
> have low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you
> have to use 5.8.
>
> For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits, a
> 10 MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x
> modulation, 10 MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need
> the next bigger channel (roughly).
>
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> *From: *"Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
> *To: *"ubnt users" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>
> Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?
>
>
>
> We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one
> of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed
> tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can
> shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I'm wondering if I can use an AF 5
> for that hop and get the needed throughput.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Haas
>
>
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