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> On Apr 14, 2017, at 06:08, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Coordination? Liz and only Liz.
> 
> 
> 
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> From: "Chris Soiles" <csoi...@riocities.net>
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:50:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Part 101 Spectrum Grab (was 4096 QAM)
> 
> I agree with the spectrum grab, my problem is the cost of frequency 
> coordination, what is everyone doing for coord?
> 
> Doing it yourself? 
> Any hardware vendors absorbing some of it, making it affordable? 
> Any kind of subscription type consultants, x$ per month and you get x number 
> of assistance to spread out the expense? 
> 
> Sent from iPhone 6S Plus
>  
> Chris Soiles
> Owner
> Rio Cities
> csoi...@riocities.net
> 505-966-6389
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Mimbres Communications <mim...@sw-ei.com> wrote:
> 
> Waking up a bit late here as well, and we're *seriously* rural  (second least 
> populated county in the sixth least populated state in the nation).  The 
> power company and the mine both have all manner of dual-pol 40 MHz links on 6 
> GHz and 11 GHz running hither and yon.  400+ mbits full duplex to a 
> substation?  Sure, why not?
> 
> AF-11FX at 56 MHz just meets the 101.147 efficiency requirements for an 80 
> MHz channel at 256 QAM.  Engineer your links at 1024 QAM and you can probably 
> secure the channel.  Upgrade that to 4096 QAM on the full 80 MHz in a few 
> years and you're golden.
> 
> The rules are probably due for a re-work at some point.  The traffic loading 
> requirements are ripe for a legal challenge and I suspect somebody's likely 
> to pull that lever in the next few years.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> 
>> wrote:
>> "Conserve Spectrum" ....
>> "Waste of Resources"....
>> "Spectrum Efficiency".....
>> 
>> Where are you folks living ? Dream Land ? ......
>> 
>> When are going to wake up and realize that the battle is purely about 
>> spectrum grab.....
>> 
>> My advice to you all newbies.... get the biggest chunk of 11ghz spectrum 
>> channels you can get and put up the radios that you can afford that will 
>> chew up the whole channel.... you can always get a better radio in the 
>> future (or when you can afford it).. but very surely you may not be so lucky 
>> in finding extra spectrum when you need it in the future....
>> 
>> Doing anything less, is very likely to endanger your future business well 
>> being.....
>> 
>> Can me whatever you like........
>> But take it from someone who is waking up to this rather late.... i.e. 
>> virtually impossible to find 6ghz paths, virtually impossible to find 11ghz 
>> paths, and 18ghz are going fast too... BTW, we are in Rain Zone N.... which 
>> means only 11ghz & 6ghz are practical for any reasonable distance...
>> 
>> (BTW in our area, no 3.65, no CBRS, sprint is sitting on 2.5....ahhh !...but 
>> we can use 24Ghz & 60Ghz & EBand !!!!! )
>> 
>> 
>> ..... you think your industry peers are going to play nice with conserving 
>> spectrum ' !!! Think again...
>> e.g.   http://about.att.com/story/att_to_acquire_straight_path.html
>>     Follow the bigger story starting with the FCC & Straight Path ...
>> 
> 
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