Siemens had a line of higher end multi-handset cordless branded as
Gigaset.  The models we had in our office were spread spectrum 2.4 GHz
which absolutely annihilated WiFi.

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
wrote:

> I'm going to print this one out and give it to the user.
>
> J
>
> On 12/06/2017 11:20 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> Correct about cordless phones. I had one so leaky that it cut out the
> radio every time you made a call!
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How about changing the Ethernet cable or re-crimping connectors? Since
>> this is on 2.4 GHz I would check to see how many Bluetooth devices they may
>> be using especially speakers and such. That frequency hops the band and if
>> enough devices are all hopping around it might be enough to mess with your
>> radio. The hopping sequences are probably too fast to show up on airview.
>> Other ideas to check are things like local transmitters on other RF
>> frequencies. Ham radio operator, business band radio, volunteer firefighter
>> with a radio? One other possible source could be an old cordless phone or
>> two, they have been used on both the 900 and 2.4 GHz bands. Locate them all
>> and replace them with DECT 6.0 phones, those are on their own dedicated 1.8
>> GHz spectrum. Even one they don’t use in another room will broadcast when
>> the phone rings. Unless you were there as its ringing you would not see it
>> on airview either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *RickG
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:26 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have a network monitor that confirms this or is it just hearsay
>> from the customer? Also, have you checked power?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Tower is in plain view, no obstructions, is set to 2412Mhz, 20Mhz bw at
>> less than 3 miles away.  Tower is a rocketM2 with a 120degree sector
>> antenna am-2g15-120.  There are 24 users connected.  Problem first started
>> showing up when there were maybe 5 users over 2 years ago.  There is only 1
>> user with this problem and there are at least 6 users within easy sight of
>> this 1 user who have no problems.  Problem seems to be specific to this one
>> location, I suspect it has something to do with pump-motors as they turn on
>> at random times and there are several in the nearby area.  How do I prove
>> the problem?  Anybody know what kind of test equipment would spot motor
>> and/or power noise?  An old black and white TV used to be pretty useful at
>> picking up un-grounded motor-noise, I don't have one and we don't have a tv
>> station that broadcasts something an old-tv would even tune to.
>>
>> The one-time I saw the problem while I was there and airview showed
>> nothing useful.  Channel 1 and 11 were empty, actually all the channels
>> were empty when there should have been something.  I don't know what could
>> essentially block signal, which is kind of what I saw.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-12-06 01:33 PM, Mitch wrote:
>>
>> Does this site have Perfectly clear line of site? What is the tower AP?
>>
>> If clear line of site and V/H AP try setting the CPE to the Horizontal
>> and see if that clears it up
>>
>> This has worked a few times for me
>>
>> If not you may need to rent an Anritzu and set it to record for a few
>> days to see what the
>>
>> interference is
>>
>>
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>> 218-851-8689 <(218)%20851-8689> cell
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/6/2017 2:39 PM, Jan Van Kort wrote:
>>
>> I think I've tried everything mentioned at least once.  I moved it to a
>> NSM900 Loco for awhile from a different tower.  I've had NSM2, NSM2Loco,
>> AirGridM2 and AirGridM2HP and NanoBeamM2, Maybe next try a
>> PowerbeamM2-400?  Don't have an M5 tower near here yet.  Client uses an
>> Air-Router set to channel 6.  Everything in large house uses channel 6 to
>> talk to Air-Router.  Have changed the Router to Gateways and even other
>> brands.  Always the same intermittent problem with connecting to internet.
>>
>> Presently, channel width is 20Mhz (everyone gets this setting via tower)
>> on channel #1 (2412Mhz) signal is: -59 and using an airgridM2HP.  PWDOG set
>> to tower IP 300 seconds.
>>
>> FYI--I've had this problem for 2 years.  Couldn't resolve it and stopped
>> service.  Customer wants our service and wants problem resolved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-12-06 10:57 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC wrote:
>>
>> Two things I've done when experiencing odd issues at one site that worked
>> for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  Check customer router settings.   Reduce channel width to 20 mhz  on
>> both 2.4 and 5 only and set channels to ones you don't use. I've had some
>> customer routers blasting at 40 or 80 mhz channel width.  Once I reduced,
>> both my radio stats and their experience improved. I've had this on
>> multiple customers.  Not sure why default is 80mhz channel width.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Redirect the dish to change the signal strength.  I had a similar
>> case and as last resort I made the signal worse and it worked.  Was in mid
>> 50's and moved to low to mid 60's and issue disappeared.  I even tried
>> turning the power down due to the strong signal and still didn't work till
>> I moved the dish.
>>
>>
>>
>> Somebody on here, mentioned during my similar interferemce issue, that
>> something could be facing this one dish that is new in the area and the
>> direct inference is impacting the service.  It worked and no idea what it
>> was picking up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Troy Gibson
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
>> <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
>>
>> Date: 12/6/17 12:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>
>> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source
>>
>>
>>
>> It's just the one customer.  Neighbors to each side are just fine.
>> Neighbors are about 1/4 mile away on same hillside in quasi-rural area.
>> There are no other WISPs in area, no airFiber that I've found.  AirView
>> shows nothing worth getting excited about when problem isn't happening,
>> when problem is happening Airview is not accessible as unit is not
>> responding.  Rarely has problem occurred while I'm on the premises and goes
>> away before I can zero in on it.   I'm suspecting large pumps, old
>> transformers, bad neutral?  How to prove and stop wasting time and money on
>> one customer?  Pulling hair time!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-12-06 09:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Spectrum Analyzer and AirView both show real noise.
>>
>>
>>
>> You said you changed bands at the customer site, are there other
>> customers on those APs that are having issues or is it this one guy?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have on two occasions tried to cross the path of an AirFiber5 and had
>> the signal completely blocked.  Like Rory said they don't show up on Site
>> Surveys or noise figures, but are very apparent in AirView.
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Could still be noise.  Canopy and AFx equipment won't show up in the
>> noise figures.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:07 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source
>>
>> Have a client that is difficult to login to at times, service for them
>> seems to quit.  Has good signal strength.  Have changed the radio to
>> different models and frequencies and connected to different towers. It's
>> like some kind of barrier at random times is erected between house and
>> tower.  Site survey and spectrum analyzer never show anything remotely
>> definitive as to possible cause or source of trouble.  Could problem be
>> noisy electrical transformers or well pumps and what low-cost equipment
>> would I need to find it?
>>
>> --
>>
>> J
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