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>    3. AC in 4.9ghz (Kevin Sullivan)
>    4. Re: AC in 4.9ghz (Mimbres Communications)
>    5. cameras 1000ft through a forest (Jan-OOLLC)
>    6. Re: 8.5.0 problem (James Craig)
>    7. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Mimbres Communications)
>    8. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Jan-OOLLC)
>    9. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Galen Manners)
>   10. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (nos...@avantwireless.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:48:03 -0700
> From: Roy <r.engehau...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
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>
> Actually they can.? It depends on what OS you used when you activated
> DFS.? I have a number of M5s running in that range
>
>
> On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> >
> > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
> > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
> worked on any UNII frequency.? I had to move the radio down to a clogged
> non-UNII spectrum channel?
> >
> > Forbes Mercy
> > Washington Broadband, Inc.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:50:49 +0000
> From: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <9a71a9bf17c847458483525b3e509...@triadwireless.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> 6.13 or 6.14.  Might be a legacy upgrade thing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Roy
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>
>
>
> Actually they can.? It depends on what OS you used when you activated
> DFS.? I have a number of M5s running in that range
>
>
> On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> >
> > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
> > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
> worked on any UNII frequency.? I had to move the radio down to a clogged
> non-UNII spectrum channel?
> >
> > Forbes Mercy
> > Washington Broadband, Inc.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:32:25 -0800
> From: "Kevin Sullivan" <kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net>
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] AC in 4.9ghz
> To: <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <038901d3960a$d9c1c330$8d454990$@sulli...@alyrica.net>
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> All,
>
>
>
> We have a city that is currently using AF4 links for what is really a very
> low bandwidth application. They need to add a few more sites, but the PtP
> nature of AF is making it difficult. I know Mimosa says that all of their
> 5ghz products are legal for use in the 4.9ghz band,
> (http://mimosa.co/publicsafety).
>
>
>
>  Does anyone know if the ubnt AC 5ghz line is legal to use in 4.9?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>                 Kevin
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:53:53 -0700
> From: Mimbres Communications <mim...@sw-ei.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC in 4.9ghz
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
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> The airMAX AC products do not have 4.9 band approvals.
>
> The LTU (PtMP) hardware is capable of operating in that band, but AFAIK the
> business case for FCC approvals is still under discussion.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Kevin Sullivan <
> kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net
> > wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > We have a city that is currently using AF4 links for what is really a
> very
> > low bandwidth application. They need to add a few more sites, but the PtP
> > nature of AF is making it difficult. I know Mimosa says that all of their
> > 5ghz products are legal for use in the 4.9ghz band, (
> > http://mimosa.co/publicsafety).
> >
> >
> >
> >  Does anyone know if the ubnt AC 5ghz line is legal to use in 4.9?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >                 Kevin
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:54:12 -0800
> From: Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <53b4e8e0-e3d6-8884-835c-24721ddf5...@oregononline.net>
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> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.? Range is a
> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> dumpers.? What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> I think about for first attempt?
>
> --
>
> Jan V
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:11:06 -0500
> From: James Craig <ja...@ubnt.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
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> What freq was the AP (and channel width) set to, Forbes?
>
> Please keep in mind that the XM units operate under a different DFS grant
> VS XW and AC radios.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> > 6.13 or 6.14.  Might be a legacy upgrade thing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> > On Behalf Of Roy
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually they can.  It depends on what OS you used when you activated
> > DFS.  I have a number of M5s running in that range
> >
> >
> > On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> > > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
> > >
> > > Rory
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> > On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
> > > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> > >
> > > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
> > > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
> > worked on any UNII frequency.  I had to move the radio down to a clogged
> > non-UNII spectrum channel?
> > >
> > > Forbes Mercy
> > > Washington Broadband, Inc.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:19:09 -0700
> From: Mimbres Communications <mim...@sw-ei.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
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> How dense a forest?
>
> 2.4 GHz airMAX AC is cheap enough to test with.  7.5W max on the CPEs.
>
> UVC Gen3 draws 4W max (less during the day when the IR is off).
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> > little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> > dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> > I think about for first attempt?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jan V
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:22:25 -0800
> From: Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
> Message-ID: <ef1b3897-1877-1726-0b6a-4b08d2117...@oregononline.net>
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>
> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.? These bastards
> are dumping almost every night.? There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
> the way.? Should I think about running power 1000ft?? Is there a cheap
> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>
> Jan V
>
> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.? Range is a
>
> > little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> > dumpers.? What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> > I think about for first attempt?
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:32:50 +0000
> From: "Galen Manners" <ga...@wavewls.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <emf2a0860e-fc67-44a2-817a-c4aa4aa7d7f7@galen-pc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
>
> Might be way off base but have you considered a trail (game) camera with
> cellular (if you have cellular service in the area).  Lots of different
> options to choose from.  Just a thought.
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Jan-OOLLC" <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
> Sent: 1/25/2018 2:22:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>
> >I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
> >are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
> >the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
> >way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
> >
> >Jan V
> >
> >I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> >
> >>little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> >>dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras
> >>should
> >>I think about for first attempt?
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:37:47 -0800
> From: nos...@avantwireless.com
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <d4ce3e7a-8d49-e783-36f3-25bac4b19...@avantwireless.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1516912362&sr=8-10&keywords=mikrotik+poe+switch
>
> With the camera hung on the end..    Space the POE switches to retime
> the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the
> other end to power the cameras?
>
> Power the last switch from the other end
>
> Bunch of assumptions there..    1000 feet of direct bury laid on the
> ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?
>
>
> On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> > I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
> > are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
> > the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
> > way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
> >
> > Jan V
> >
> > I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> >
> >> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> >> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> >> I think about for first attempt?
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:37:21 -0700
> From: Roy <r.engehau...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <0601fcaa-de53-281d-a8b3-23c3d553b...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> How about Arlo GO
>
> http://arlo.com/en-us/products/arlo-go/default.aspx?cid=us-arlo-pro-srch
>
> Battery Powered and uses LTE
>
>
>
> On 1/25/2018 1:37 PM, nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
> > Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1516912362&sr=8-10&keywords=mikrotik+poe+switch
> >
> > With the camera hung on the end..    Space the POE switches to retime
> > the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the
> > other end to power the cameras?
> >
> > Power the last switch from the other end
> >
> > Bunch of assumptions there..    1000 feet of direct bury laid on the
> > ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?
> >
> >
> > On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> >> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
> >> are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
> >> the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
> >> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
> >>
> >> Jan V
> >>
> >> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> >>
> >>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> >>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> >>> I think about for first attempt?
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Ubnt_users mailing list
> >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> >
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 16:59:29 -0500
> From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Rory, see attached :)
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> > On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
> >
> > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
> > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
> > worked on any UNII frequency.  I had to move the radio down to a clogged
> > non-UNII spectrum channel?
> >
> > Forbes Mercy
> > Washington Broadband, Inc.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> >
>
>
>
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