Hi,
Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least
in my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to
install it manually.
Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
System: Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service
● espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
vendor preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min ago
Docs: man:espeakup(8)
Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
Memory: 6.3M
CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
└─1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software speech
output for Speakup...
Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech
output for Speakup.
Best regards
Volodymyr
On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far. It was
suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the hardware I am
about to be installing on [at work] but since I am testing on some different
hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is true or not
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you want
they're not default. I've done much of it before but found slint far more
straightforward to get this process working
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense
of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an
in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging
all the equipment along
However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily
repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into
switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would
hopefully work 'out of the box'
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel
and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't got
generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until after
installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either It's a
matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing it over
the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best done by linux experts at the
linux user's group install linux club day meeting.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop the
disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading
them to me]
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall
the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing
modules is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have
to build them correctly first. If you had mlocate package installed
and had done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft
and find if you have that module in source code on your disk.
Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted
all of the speakup modules. They would be on the disk and would
have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and then
installed. It's a complicated
process, just the way ubuntu wants it.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is
possible?
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of
the speakup modules.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used
in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't
appear the speakup module is there after the install, at least I
am unable to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't
seems to be able to find it either
From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and
wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step
instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything
Thanks again ?
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace
ubuntu with
another distribution.
You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a
espeak.log to
each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish
getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out
that
way.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
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