I am extremely sorry Jan if my words came out as sarcasm.Please forgive me, I had no attention of doing that. I hope this has not upset ed you.
Jason Odoom http://www.google.com/profiles/jasonodoom https://launchpad.net/~jasonodoom <https://launchpad.net/%7Ejasonodoom> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:43 AM, K.de Jong <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Jan, > > I am not about giving up that easily, > and I also think we should gather our resources and layout what is > possible. > Who, what, where, when, why and how ? > > videos > In the back of my mind I kinda expect a (few) proper video(s) will only be > shot > if we gather the right people together in one place and each and every > one involved > knows beforehand what is to be done that timeframe. > Therefore either such a thing is done with the support of a (few) LoCo > Or to be put on hold till UDS. > Never the less, the desire to make a professional ad is there. > And such a thing needs creative ideas > Things that do not fit well can be adjusted as a group. > > But there are other ideas too, which can be worked out > and go out before natty release. > These also need to be worked out. > > The last 2,3,4! meetings have been very chaotic > I do not want that anymore > > we have this etherpad: > http://openetherpad.org/c5BupbHabP > Which is a layout for what to talk about > > I volunteer to be hosting and provide the outlines > of that next meeting, but please stick to the subject! > The meeting is most likely to last 2 hours. > After that, people tend to come up with other creative works > so your welcome to stay in channel for a while. > > Also, a lot of people sign up for teams just to monitor its progress. > Do not expect everyone signed up to participate > The list of people on the wiki is more reliable, > and also, when there are actual things to do more will come. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Keimpe de Jong > > > > 2010/12/1 Jan Stedehouder <[email protected]>: > > Hi everyone, > > I've been monitoring the ongoings for our new group here in the last week > > and I am worried we are rapidly moving into the wrong direction. First, > it > > is great we have a 100+ team members already. It shows there is a solid > > interest in our community to expand Ubuntu in the field of advertising. > > However, over the last couple of days I see two main topics: > > 1. How quick can we plan another IRC meeting and be disappointed about > it, > > and > > 2. How many scripts for new commercials can we come up with in the > shortest > > of time. > > Okay, I might be exagerating a bit, but considering Jason's statement in > a > > previous message implying he is already considering calling it quits we > run > > the risk of running into brick walls before ever taking of properly. > > Jason, I don't think it is wise making statements like this after a > > forthnight. Starting something new requires leadership and leadership > > requires stamina. One thing I think we should do (instead of planning > the > > next meeting ASAP or creating logos and scripts) is to design the proper > > framework. Communications 101. What is the message we want to bring out? > For > > which target audiences? Which communications channels are best to reach > > those audiences? And then, only then, we start thinking about how to > frame > > that message via products, and create a roadmap to get that message out. > At > > this point we have no framework to judge to the suggestions for products > > other that personal preference. > > Am I willing to pull my load in this area? Yes I am, provided we go for > > quality first. That focus on quality served me well as a writer of > various > > Ubuntu-related books and as editor for the Dutch Open Source Yearbook. In > > March 2011 I'll be hosting a free PR-training for FOSS-organizations in > the > > Netherlands, for a group of people that want to promote their > organizations > > and activities in the best way possible (where financial means come at a > > premium). It's no problem to make this training available to our team as > > well. > > So, my request is: please slow down a bit. Ubuntu 11.04 won't be out in > five > > months. We can take some time to find the proper direction. If one > > IRC-meeting isn't to enough or if IRC isn't the proper channel of > > communication to reach the 100+ choose something else. To put it bluntly: > if > > we can't find a way to communicate with 100 interested people, we will > never > > find a way to communicate to the masses. > > Kindest regards > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Jan Stedehouder > > Stavenissestraat 18 > > 3086 RG Rotterdam > > 06 - 44 357 105 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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