2010/12/8 Lisandro Vaccaro <[email protected]> > We must use Unity, I just meant that if the basic Unity features like Dash > aren't usable the date we decide to start the ad we'll either have to do it > without Unity or not do it. So it's not really a choice we have to make, > we'll plan the ad normally and then figure out how to put Unity on it. It > all comes down to the date we want the ad to be finished. > > > > 2010/12/7 [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> >> >> On 8 December 2010 02:42, Lisandro Vaccaro <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> The output of that decision will be forced on us. Let's forget about the >>> issue of Unity and plan the Ad normally. If Dash is added before we start >>> we'll do it with Unity. If not then we'll have to use the regular gnome >>> interface. >>> >>> 2010/12/7 [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8 December 2010 01:58, yitzchak schwarz <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ubuntu's priorities seem to be simplicity, consistency, originality, >>>>> and beauty. Customisability doesn't seem to be a priority. I also find it >>>>> unwise to advertise based on stuff that will be gone in the next release. >>>>> We >>>>> should focus on Unity, not GNOME Panel. Other things we should think of >>>>> are >>>>> Canonical's "cash cows" - The app store, the music store, and synch >>>>> service. >>>>> The integration of these things by default is also a selling feature. We >>>>> should try to stay away from normal Linux promotion ideas and instead >>>>> focus >>>>> on what Ubuntu is, what it aims to be, and who is the subsequent target >>>>> audience. IMO that's non-gamer home users right now who don't know and >>>>> don't >>>>> want to know anything about computers beyond the minimum steps necessary >>>>> to >>>>> get stuff done, and have no patience for anything that can be seen as an >>>>> extra step between turning on their computer and completing the intended >>>>> task. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Archibald Platypus < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If Ubuntu was looking to do some real video advertising, I have a >>>>>> wonderful idea for a global market. The theme simply has to be >>>>>> freedom. >>>>>> No words really have to be necessary, just print words will do, and >>>>>> can >>>>>> be stylized to include the same statements (or whatever!) in all >>>>>> languages. No humans. Just people using their desktops. With free and >>>>>> open source software, you can be free, and people who use Ubuntu have >>>>>> control over their computer: Each and every desktop will look >>>>>> completely >>>>>> different, feel completely different, be organized for completely >>>>>> different tasks, and carry on said tasks in completely different ways. >>>>>> With Ubuntu, you can truly be unique. If we did a call out to Ubuntu >>>>>> users to send us screen-casts of their own desktops in use, and >>>>>> specify >>>>>> a resolution for submission, we could easily generate enough visual >>>>>> content to express this freedom. I also have music I would like to >>>>>> submit for the background. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else seeing this? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: >>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : >>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> yitzchak: Completely agreed!. >>>> >>>> We're looking at users who are not advanced; they want Facebook and >>>> eBay; they want to listen to their music and watch their videos. >>>> >>>> And yes, the older GNOME system, whilst I believe will be available as a >>>> fail-safe, will not be the main interface; Unity will be. As Unity's UI is >>>> not expected to stablilze until far too late in the cycle for us to work >>>> with, we are facing a difficult decision; It looks like we may have to do a >>>> Ubuntu ad, without Ubuntu in it. (or at least, not very visible) We don't >>>> want to create an ad without the correct interface, after all... >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -Danté Ashton >>>> >>>> Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Ubuntu >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : >>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lisandro H. Vaccaro >>> >>> >> >> There is little point in doing an advert for the old GNOME interface; I >> mean; that's almost like doing an advert for Windows Vista/7, whilst >> promoting the layout of Windows 95... >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -Danté Ashton >> >> Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici >> >> >> Sent from Ubuntu >> >> > > > -- > Lisandro H. Vaccaro > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > Also Alpha1 just came out, recently, it can show unity as it is now, people who have not seen ubuntu ever-before will be in the understanding that either we missed something or this is how it is supposed to be.
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