Just a small suggestion... Gnome 2.24 has been released and with it (if you
read the release notes) is a collection of very nice set of wallpapers taken
after a competition. It would be great if these are included by default or
maybe included in the repositories.

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>   4. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (Vadim Peretokin)
>   5. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (symon cadwallender)
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> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:21:53 -0400
> From: "Michael Garate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is
> exactly what happened for the hardy release :(
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> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:25:38 +0200
> From: Giuseppe Pennisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Il giorno gio, 25/09/2008 alle 16.14 +0100, Jos? Luis ha scritto:
> > So we need:
> > -Vid editor
> > -Third party office support(PS, After Effects, AutoCad..)
> >
> I agree totally. This items are more important to compete with closed
> source OS.
>
> For the rest, I think is more important make something that is not only
> beauty or easily to use but is ready to use without that people should
> do particular settings. Ubuntu must be a package ready to use. Also in
> the themes should be ready to use, creating more solutions of the same
> theme. Infact in some themes is not enough simply change the colors in
> the control
> panel but must work in the code to adjust some values and for users this
> is not simple. And they don't want.
>
> Sorry for my English, I hope you understand.
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> gp
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> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:43:05 +0100
> From: "Gary Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
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> I feel much the same way. I've been watching the art discussion list for
> quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than anything
> (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of development is
> almost like an afterthought.
>
>
>
> Don't get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing
> out better software to be included in the next release,  but the lack of
> a "pretty" interface it isn't helping the migration of users over to
> Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain "eye candy" on
> those operating systems and that is all they care about ... Canonical
> and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion.
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>
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> I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This
> is exactly what happened for the hardy release :(
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> From: "Vadim Peretokin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> A lot of people on social networking sites are expecting a new theme
> also...
> everybody got scared when the horrid completely brown theme was being
> tested, but others comforted them that it was just testing. But with no
> themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole scope of
> the expectations) with the Alphas, everyone is hoping for the final theme
> to
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> From: "symon cadwallender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good theme,
> either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde. Im so sick
> of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just switched to
> Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with today's standard.
> 'F ubuntu and gnome'
> By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick of
> ubuntu
> kaddy
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > A lot of people on social networking sites are expecting a new theme
> > also... everybody got scared when the horrid completely brown theme was
> > being tested, but others comforted them that it was just testing. But
> with
> > no themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole
> scope
> > of the expectations) with the Alphas, everyone is hoping for the final
> theme
> > to be in Beta, and it being good...
> >
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> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:18:32 +0200
> From: Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
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> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 12:43 +0100, Gary Stanley wrote:
> > I feel much the same way. I?ve been watching the art discussion list
> > for quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than
> > anything (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of
> > development is almost like an afterthought.
>
> i totally agree, and i think that everybody is expecting the new theme
> as well, however this is the ubuntu-art list and if we dont know about
> this new theme than i dont know who would.
>
> we have good and nice community themes. dust is my personal favorite,
> but it is still very buggy, and many bugs cannot be fixed without the
> applications developers. the only way it could be implemented is if they
> would put it in default at the beginning of the next release, so all the
> developers have 6 months to correct there application interfaces.
> most of the problems come from the different background and toolbar
> color btw.
>
> >
> >
> > Don?t get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing
> > out better software to be included in the next release,  but the lack
> > of a ?pretty? interface it isn?t helping the migration of users over
> > to Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain ?eye
> > candy? on those operating systems and that is all they care about ?
> > Canonical and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
> > Garate
> > Sent: 26 September 2008 12:22
> > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again.
> > This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :(
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:30:18 +0100
> From: Michael Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 20:16 +0800, symon cadwallender wrote:
> > Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good
> > theme, either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde.
> > Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just
> > switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with
> > today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome'
> > By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick
> > of ubuntu
> > kaddy
>
> See this link at the bottom of every post, click it.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
> Good riddance Troll.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:24:37 +0200
> From: Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ky?d?: Audience and   Message
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com>
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>
> > So we need:
> > -Vid editor
> > -Third party office support(PS, After Effects, AutoCad..)
> >
> > And a pretty interface, of course!
>
> i agree we need a good video editor, like imovie, and openoffice is
> great but they have so dumb mistakes (for example if you would use a lot
> of shortcuts like alt+menushortcut+menuitemshortcut, in openoffice ater
> u hit alt it opens the file menu so you have to hit escape and than
> start hitting the other shortcuts, seems a stupid thing but if u use
> office all day u need these shotcuts..)
> or comparing impress to apples keynote.. different dimensions.
>
> however i dont think the games are so important. people play on xbox not
> on pc anymore.
>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jos? Luis Ric?n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:28:21 -0400
> From: "Cory K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Application support
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Adam wrote:
> >> So we need:
> >> -Vid editor
> >> -Third party office support(PS, After Effects, AutoCad..)
> >>
> >> And a pretty interface, of course!
> >>
> >
> > i agree we need a good video editor, like imovie, and openoffice is
> > great but they have so dumb mistakes (for example if you would use a lot
> > of shortcuts like alt+menushortcut+menuitemshortcut, in openoffice ater
> > u hit alt it opens the file menu so you have to hit escape and than
> > start hitting the other shortcuts, seems a stupid thing but if u use
> > office all day u need these shotcuts..)
> > or comparing impress to apples keynote.. different dimensions.
> >
> > however i dont think the games are so important. people play on xbox not
> > on pc anymore.
>
> This is all very off-topic. Please separate of a topic (especially if it
> hijacks one as important as Ky?d?) next time.
>
> (general note for all ^^^)
>
>
> -Cory K.
>
>
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