On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 20:58 +1000, Scott Evans wrote: > My Random Ramblings... > > On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 19:43 -0700, AndrewG wrote: > > > LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP > > > > Prologue: 25th March, Melissa Draper (our team contact) was sent an > > email outlining some of the following in detail. I am still awaiting > > a reply (maybe she is on holidays), thus my reason for a public post > > to the Ubuntu-au community. (I wish that she had replied so we could > > have made a joint post) > > > > Ok firstly this is a discussion not a session to prove popularity or > to attack "anyone" at a personal level, Remember we are all friends > here not enemies! (leave any egos at the door please) > > > > > LEADERSHIP: From the correspondence that I have had with Melissa, she > > informs me that > > "The contact is not the dog's body nor is it the mastermind." > > Further, "I'm responsible for allocating privileges as allowed to us > > by Canonical. I'm the team /contact/. I'm the person who interfaces > > between Canonical and the team members." > > > > So my conclusion is that the 'Team Contact' is NOT the team leader > > (contrary to popular belief), but a 'Conduit' between Canonical, the > > Community Council and the Ubuntu-au community. (and also that the Team > > leader should convey the sentiment of the ubuntu-au community) > > > > Ok so my interpretation of the ubuntu LoCo leader was some what > different... > > > Thus, Ubuntu-au is a collection of people with no leadership, a group > > of individuals trying to further the goals set down in the wiki page > > 'The Australian team focuses on distributing, advertising and > > demonstrating Ubuntu within Australia' > > > > Sadly I feel that the current "structure" doesn't actually do much for > promoting ubuntu as a whole... > > > I also asked Melissa the following > > "What is your vision ?" > > Her reply > > "My vision is for a team that is constructive and contains people who > > think up initiatives or support others rather than waiting for > > orders." > > Err... Ok but lately I feel that some have put forward suggestions and > have been met with great resistance to "change" > > > My reply > > "How do we encourage & support constructive people? > > Some people need to be given guidance, in my experience there are > > three types of people. > > 1. Leaders: Those that inspire others to do great things > > 2. Followers: Those that need inspiration to do great things. > > 3. Others: They just don't give a damn about doing great things." > > > > Agree totally with the above ... now just decide what roll you are > comfortable with and don't be threatened by those that choose option > 1 > > > > > On March 8,9 & 11, there was some very robust threads on this mailing > > list about Ubuntu-au Governance, Re-approval and the Website. > > Now I'm not sure that these discussions achieved much as it has been > > over one month and it seams that these issues remain unresolved. > > > > I think I can see why this is the case. > > > > 1. There seams to be a reluctance to change the status-quo. > > 2. There is a fear about 'loss of control'. > > 3. There is no clear process to bring about change to the Ubuntu-au > > community. > > 4. There is no 'leadership' to enable change to be achieved. > > > > Sadly this seems to be the norm with discussion. It all starts out > well intended but then due to the "resistance" mentioned earlier it is > near impossible to achieve. > > > In summary: 'Nobody is responsible for everything' or 'Everybody is > > responsible for Everything' or 'Nobody is responsible for Nothing' > > > > "Change is the law of life and those who look only to the past or > > present are certain to miss the future." > > —John F. Kennedy > > Umm... didn't he get a bullet in the head for having some rather > radical idea's ? (I'm trying to make light of a bad situation > there!) > > > > > BIG PICTURE: > > Currently there is a discussion with the Community Council > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986 > > It talks about 'LoCo's are not "Lo" Enough' (Mark Shuttleworth has > > even made comment) > > and the concept of: > > ReCo = Regional Community (for States and Provinces) > > CoCo = Country Community (for Countries) > > LoCo = Local Community (for Towns and Cities) > > > > I'm not sure that we have the numbers to break the LoCo down into > smaller sub units, but as an Idea it sure does carry merit. As we are > aware that the current arrangement (from when the LoCo was approved) > is really centralised as a Sydney community with smaller interest from > other states, Now that there is an interest beyond the original > concept devised by the original founders of the AU LoCo, was there > ever any further thought back then (2006) that it would grow beyond > what the LoCo was at that time (I can't answer this because I wasn't > an active member of the ubuntu-au community then) and to allow future > broadening to "all" areas within the greater AU population? The way it > feel to me is "no" but I could be wrong in saying this, but that is > how I have felt when engaging in discussion. > > > The Ubuntu-au community is clearly a 'CoCo' not a 'LoCo' as we are > > seperated by large distances, in cities and regions. > > > > If we accept the premise that the ubuntu-au community is made up of > > smaller 'LoCo' around the country. > > I.E. Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Hobart > > > > *********************************************************************************************************** > > PROPOSAL: I would propose that an "Australian Community Council"(ACC) > > be created. (A Trial for 18 months) > > Its members would be 1. Team-Contact 2. Web-master 3. 'LoCo' > > representative(s) (7+-2 people total) > > *********************************************************************************************************** > > (See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure for a summary > > of models) > > (See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure-detailed for > > a detailed model of the ACC) > > (These models have been created in collaboration, and are open to > > further modification) > > > > I don't see there being anything lost by not trying this suggestion, > if it doesn't work then simply revert back to the current system. > Presently the ubuntu-au LoCo has really not done much in the way of > promotion or for that matter purely existing on a name sake, a name > doesn't mean activity! > > > The role of the ACC, is really one of "Advisory, Support & > > Consultation", as the "Team contact" will still retain the role & > > privileges. > > > > ADVANTAGES > > 1. It gives the community some ownership in the process of running > > the Ubuntu-au. > > 2. It will bring forward 'leaders', which could be potential > > successors for the 'Team contact' > > 3. Spreading the load of leadership. (with 9 potential persons) > > 4. An open transparent process. > > 5. Authority to drive discussion and implementation. > > 6. The decision making process, on a national level is simplified, it > > is easier to make decisions with 9 (potentially) than it is with 40 in > > an IRC meeting. > > 7. An identifiable 'Contact' person for each City/Region. > > There are many Teams in the wider Ubuntu community, that utilise a > > council to share the leadership role eg. Georgia & Ohio > > > > DISADVANTAGES > > 1. Elections. > > 2. Structured. > > 3. A Committee. > > (These are not really disadvantages, but necessary evils to achieve > > the outcomes of the ADVANTAGES) > > > > I think that those that will be in opposition to this structure just > simply don't want any politics to come between them and their passion > for ubuntu! but then as it stands presently there is no "structure" > and if you do speak out you get squashed for wanting to think outside > of the circle. > > > > > > > ROADMAP: Where do we go from here? > > **************************************************************************************************************** > > I guess that I am asking YOU the community to see if YOU are in favour > > of an 'Australian Community Council'? > > **************************************************************************************************************** > > If this thread gets a favourable response, then the next thing to do > > would be to call a poll and have the 'PROPOSAL' passed. > > Then we could call for each City/Region to elect a representative to > > the ACC. > > > > One response to this post could be: 'This is all great in theory, but > > we don't have enough people to create an ACC.' > > My response would be: 'Let's ask for interested persons to come > > forward and nominate' (I know of three people that would be > > interested) > > > > Finally, unless we have a 'Structure & Process' in place to create a > > leadership team nobody will come forward. > > The status-quo cannot continue and to move forward a leadership team > > is required to motivate the community to do great things. > > > > Again I think it's worth trying, IMHO nothing is lost by not. > > > RE-APPROVAL: > > As our re-approval approaches, obviously my 'PROPOSAL' for the > > creation of the ACC cannot be implemented. (if the community agrees) > > We can say to the Ubuntu Community Council, "We are in the process of > > creating an Australian Community Council, from our Regions/Cities" our > > chances of re-approval will be greatly improved. > > > > > > *********************************************************** > > Are YOU in favour of an 'Australian Community Council'? > > *********************************************************** > > Those of you who want change, now is the time to speak-up. > > > > I think the AU LoCo re-aproval has to take its course (?) and then as > an agreed collective focus on the above proposal. > > > Scott Evans VK7HSE > Phone: +61362291658 > Mobile: +61417586157 > Skype: vk7hse > sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org > http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org > PGP/GPG Key ID 437E00F9 >
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