Dear Andre, thanks for the info. You should think that especially elderly people with tight budgets will welcome alternatives who offer them a variety of possibilities in terms of computing - but as you wrote they are all biased against "free", Linux, open.... Over the the last 20 years they got sprinkled with the word "Microsoft" either on workplace or later at home - since Windows 3.0 was coming into the market. There were better systems earlier in the market, i. e. DR-DOS, the AmigaOS based on C and Assembler, all forgotten.
Is there someone planning to go for that meeting? If yes, let me know, I like to give you support in preparation of the presentation and may be also personal support during the meeting. I can't say right now, yes I am coming, or no I am coming not, because for the time being I am not sure whether I am available - it's in the mid of the week. I just have some time on weekends. Ferdinand -----Original Message----- From: Andre Mangan <andreman...@gmail.com> To: Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de> Cc: Chris Martin <ch...@martin.cc>, ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:27:32 +1000 Thank you for that information Ferdinand. A further few comments about ASCCA and its affiliated clubs - a quick look through what computer training individual clubs offer - I found one that offers an introduction to Ubuntu (http://users.tpg.com.au/cphills/) as well as one that teaches Mac. It is likely that there are more. Most of them are hopelessly entrenched in Windows although Firefox is recommended as a browser. Andre On 21 April 2010 07:35, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de> wrote: Dear All, the announcement is in their newsletter vol. 12 from February 2010 and is indeed held in the Power House Museum. Newsletter attached regards Ferdinand -----Original Message----- From: Andre Mangan <andreman...@gmail.com> To: Chris Martin <ch...@martin.cc> Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:06:43 +1000 Chris, there is nothing on the ASCCA website yet about the coming conference. In the past it has been held at the Power House Museum in Sydney. Date: 8th and 9th September, 2010. It may be better to contact ASCCA directly: http://www.ascca.org.au/contact.html Andre On 20 April 2010 10:18, Chris Martin <ch...@martin.cc> wrote: Mitch. Can you let us know when and where the conference will be held ---------------------------------------------------------- Chris Martin m: 0419812371 ---------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan <andreman...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Mitch, Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA prompted me to contact one of the local Computer Pals for Seniors group. A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear friend got into difficulties with sending emails and I tried to look for support organisations to assist him. You may be aware how difficult it is to guide someone via the phone and screenshots to solve a computer problem. Apparently a home visit was indicated but none of the organisations under the governmental auspices of providing services to senior Australians had the manpower (womanpower) available to accommodate such a need. The problem in question was eventually resolved. Today, after negotiating an invitation, I attended a local Computer Pals for Seniors group. I have had about 25 years of experience with computers and thought myself to be adequately qualified to offer my services. Even then I had to argue my case. A misunderstanding? Perhaps the word got out that I was there to present "something alien" because an early remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft" gave me some indication of things to come. I bit my tongue. As the meeting was about to finish I asked for time to address the assemblage. This was granted. My offering was this: That I was willing to provide assistance with computer problems in the home in return for the reimbursement of traveling expenses ( I am talking about country distances and country travel ). That was well received and a negotiator and person for contact was established. I made sure that everyone understood that I was not prepared to teach the use of Microsoft software but would assist anyone who needs assistance out of a tight spot no matter which operating system was in use. I also took the opportunity to question why anyone would use commercial software, especially when the cost to pensioners is considered, the group of people who can least afford it. One person wanted to argue that MS Word was far superior to OpenOffice.org. I pointed out that I had not come to argue any case for or against. Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took their photos via Cheese and generally displayed, with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer. Unfortunately there was no hot-spot for internet. The group seems to be firmly entrenched in Microsoft products because MS has given them licences for all their software at almost no cost. Another factor is that many have an "inherited" computer system, one passed down to them as relatives upgrade their equipment and, of course, equipped with Windows. Will I go to the next meeting? You can bet on it. I noticed that MS is represented as one of the contributors to the Annual Conference in September. I wanted to post this so that whoever is going to represent (or present) Ubuntu at the ASCCA conference in Sydney in September is not caught on the back foot. Good Luck. Andre On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner <mitch.towner.ubu...@gmail.com> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everyone, I received some more information today regarding the 2010 ASCCA Conference. I was advised that approximately 200 delegates attended the conference last year. As such, this may not be quite such a "grand scale" type of thing as I initially thought. Is anyone interested in helping put together & deliver a presentation at this conference? To be completely honest, I am not much of a public speaker. However I am very keen to help organise a presentation at this conference as I believe that it would be a perfect opportunity to help promote Ubuntu. 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