We spent most of the meeting before last on the restructuring so why
would we repeat it. I will be voting :-)
On Jun 9, 11:24 am, Jared Norris <jrnor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 09:36, andrew <gande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bravo Ryan for bringing this forward,
>
> > I will not be voting for any of the structures for the following
> > reasons.
>
> > 1.  At last nights meeting there was no discussion of the actual
> > positions on the team.
>
> > 2.  There has been no discussion on the direction & goals of the team
> > (of which IMO are very important when deciding on how a team is to be
> > structured & governed)
>
> > If the above are addressed then it comes down to whether we want a
> > 'Democratic' process where candidates are voted for or a 'Meritocracy'
> > process where people are appointed.
>
> > Models 1 & 1a are clearly 'Meritocracy' and as it stands now, people are
> > appointed indefinitely until they resign their positions.  This is the
> > current model.
>
> > Model 3 is ONE 'Democratic' representative model based on regional/city
> > groups.  As there is no 'goal' of developing regional/city groups then
> > this model is irrelevant.
>
> > There are not many reasons why we cannot have a 'Team' elected to
> > positions based on merit every 12 months.  When people nominate for
> > positions they can put up their credentials, why they want the position
> > and what they can do for the Ubuntu-au Loco.
>
> > As stated above, when we have a discussion on our goals, we can talk
> > about positions, then we can talk about an election/appointment process.
>
> > This is just my opinion and I know that others will disagree.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Andrew G.
>
> > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 22:21 +0930, Ryan Macnish wrote:
> >> Hey everyone,
>
> >> So, iv made a poll and iv made it so you can only select ONE option,
> >> although you can change your selection that is irrelevant since its
> >> not possible to vote multiple times using the same name. If you fake
> >> it and want to try my patience, then so be it.
>
> >>http://www.doodle.com/zift4eahcy3mrvv9
>
> >> Ryan Macnish
>
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> Andrew and Ubuntu-AU,
>
> As far as positions go I thought the meeting basically detailed that
> to get it going forward we need to first decide what structure people
> wanted to follow. No one present voiced any objection to this from
> what I recall. After the structure was determined by the vote we could
> then look at positions based upon what option people chose. As far as
> discussing positions within the different structure options I think
> there is enough detail on the wiki for people to decide what structure
> is preferred.
>
> As far as directions and goals for the team go I thought we already
> had them, quoted from the wiki "The Australian team focuses on
> distributing, advertising and demonstrating Ubuntu within Australia.
> Through the development of our projects we focus on the areas of
> schools, business and home users".
>
> Therefore this vote is the starting point we need to ensure the group
> is best structured according to what the majority of people think is
> best suited so that we can move forward with a defined structure. I am
> sorry that you have chosen not to participate, I respect your
> decisions but I don't see how that would be constructive. You say this
> is your opinion not to vote and others will disagree and the whole
> point of the vote is to get a consensus on everyone's opinions,
> including yours.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared Norris.
>
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