lord_alan wrote: > 2. I would really appreciate it if Ubuntu/Canonical (if Mozilla can't or > wont) could distribute Firefox with the Website Services disabled by > default (we are running Linux after all so their benefit is a somewhat > moot point) so that the need for the 'user agreement' becomes a > requirement only *after* the user has made a concious choice to turn on > these services. > We could do this, yes, but I think that would be a significant loss. The services are not anti-virus (and hence of less value on Linux), they are anti-phishing. Unfortunately, the phishing virus affects the human brain and not the OS :-/ so I think launching Firefox on Linux without the anti-phishing service would be significantly less safe than IE on Windows with their anti-phishing service.
We have been driving hard to get a good result here (and publishing the EULA-version was part of that driving process) that specifically sets a good precedent for integrated network services. Such services will be a feature of the future of software, and even where that software is FLOSS, we want to be able to take advantage of the available set of services. Services, unlike software, will always come with terms of use. There are terms of use involved every time you use Google, Ebay, Yahoo, Wikipedia, Sourceforge, and like it or not your use of the service usually constitutes assent to those terms. We wanted here to establish some key ideas: - that the presentation of terms should be non-blocking. You should not have to "click to accept" (we accomplished that in the initial version) - that the terms should be presented only when the service is being invoked (the latest mockups are close to that) - that the terms should not be intrusive on your use of space (the latest mockups are, in my view, acceptable in that regard) In addition, there is going to be a lot of discussion about what sorts of terms are acceptable to people who are aware to issues of intellectual property, data protection and the value of the digital commons. I.e. - you and me. We don't yet have a view on that, there is no "GPL for Services" but we expect one to emerge over the next few years, and this work by Mozilla is an important first step. I should say that Mozilla has been very responsive once this issue was clearly on the public table, and they are clearly committed to the values that we hold dear. Organisations always have a diversity of thinking on a subject, and it's important to see what the leaders do once something is firmly on their agenda. In this case, Mozilla's leaders have been quick to stand for the things that most people here care about. As someone said, this EULA hasn't landed in a stable release, this has been part of the development process and we expect to have a good position in place before Intrepid's RC. Mark -- AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
