thank you leo
but i have the latest kernel for 8.04 - it was after the Virtualbox ose-modules 
were installed that the problem started.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-21-386 #1 Tue Oct 21 23:10:03 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
regards
crtlbreak

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no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200338
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