On 11 mar 2009, at 18:12, Scott Kitterman wrote:

> I understand your perspective, but this is actually by design.  The
> default Ubuntu Server install opens no ports to the outside world  
> (which
> is also why openssh is an option and not in the standard install).
> While I understand the problems associated with this design choice, it
> is unlikely to change since no open ports by default is a very long
> standing policy (and so no MTA by default).  The alternative is to
> select the mail server task and you'll get a Postfix you can easily
> configure for this use case.


While this is exactly the response I expected from the Ubuntu project,  
I would just like to point out that it is in no way necessary to even  
have a network interface enabled, much less any process listening to  
an external port, in order to enable cron to deliver mail to (for  
example) the local file /var/mail/root. Since you *do* include Perl  
and Python in the base system, a very basic /usr/sbin/sendmail could  
be written in either of those languages to handle that trivial task.

Also, if you really truly believe that you cannot have the ability for  
local mail delivery in the base system, you should at least provide  
all those daemons relying on such for problem reporting alternate ways  
of reporting problems. Or, I suppose, not include those either in the  
base system.

In any case, thank you for providing me with a clear and quotable  
argument for not ever using Ubuntu as a server platform.
-- 
Calle Dybedahl
ca...@init.se -*- +46 703 - 970 612

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Local mail delivery missing in default server install
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