Regarding automatic updates: I'm with Martin on this one; I believe it
should be turned on by default. If you are on a pay-per-use Internet
plan or a plan that places a cap on your usage, you can simply go in and
turn off the automatic updates. After all, if Canonical is so concerned
about the security of its users' installations that it feels the
situation warrants interrupting the user with uncommanded popups, then
having the system automatically update itself without user intervention
should be right up its alley.

I'm curious to know how update manager displays itself if the system
needs to be rebooted after an update, and the user has already closed
the window...

Regarding forking Ubuntu:  Does anyone know if Mint has/will have this
"improvement"?

-----Original Message-----
From: Stanislaw Pitucha <virap...@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Bug 332945 <332...@bugs.launchpad.net>
To: brian...@att.net
Subject: [Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide
useful status information
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:05:56 -0000

@Martin:
No - there are two problems with automatic [anything]:
1. I may be using the application that is being upgraded - and may cause it to 
crash / misbehave.
2. An automatic download at the wrong time might be very costly for the user. 
For example on my 3G connection it costs me the same to download the first 3GB 
of data in a month and to download every 60MB after that. That means any 
program starting an update at a random time, may end up costing me a lot of 
real money (without a warning). An openoffice update at a wrong time could 
really hit me.

@Vincenzo Ciancia:
"... the popup is not going away unless you make your own fork of ubuntu."
Pidgin was forked for less annoying changes... With ubuntu it's even easier - a 
PPA with a "fixed" package is enough. If the option of going back to no-popup 
version is disabled in Karmic, I'm definitely making such package - I still 
consider the popup behaviour in whatever form to be broken / a bug.

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