*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 399071 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399071
OK, I was too harsh and exaggerated a bit. The rant was building up from
a feeling of seeing similar things going on before and it was wrong to
let it all out here. And I am not sour at you for developing this, but
at those who let this into Intrepid, so please do not take this
personally. Other than I would like to encourage thinking over what
Ubuntu needs and not, and a server guy will have different perspectives
than the average Ubuntu user. But I am not telling you what you should
work on. And I understand that Canonical needs to make money, be it by
promoting landscape solutions and what not.
This does not change my opinion that update-motd is really a bad idea.
> update-motd solved an interesting problem
No, this is not interesting for normal users. Even for multi-users
systems, I am sure people don't read the motd even if they would happen
to log in on a console. An administrator will have his own status
scripts and routines to pick up this information.
> and had nearly zero impact to a running system.
This is a general problem which added to the fire: Developers are
testing on their great computers (or Dell 10v) and we end up with things
like for instance apt-xapian-update or scrollkeeper-update which totally
destroy the user experience for those with more moderate computers. Or
another daemon here and python applet there, and that's why an empty
desktop needs 1GB of RAM. All these nearly-zero-impact things add up (or
multiply even).
> Come with a proposed solution, or code in hand.
That is what I did in the bug report: Remove the Recommends from update-
notifier common to make sure it is not included in a default install. If
some server guy wants to install it (from universe), fine.
I am glad to see this is developing in a more sane direction with pam-
motd, but again I don't see why this is rushed into main or default
installs before maturing a bit.
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please remove update-motd from default install
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398969
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