Actually, while we are on this topic, you should dig up a copy of OS/2 Warp 
4.5 and take a look at the boot manager IBM had shipping with it.  Even on 
small things IBM tended to provided professional grade solutions.  The 1.2Meg 
boot partition for the boot manager was actually genius.

What is the primary flaw of most boot managers today, including grub?

They aren't optically isolated from OS media problems.  Windows based boot 
managers, and grub are useless if their preferred OS boot partition gets 
shanked.  Grub error 17 is both infamous and world renowned.

Few things are more frustrating than having gone to all of the trouble of 
creating a special "backup/recovery tools" type partition on a different disk 
specifically so you could fix problems then not be able to boot it because the 
scrambled partition you need to fix happens to have files for the boot manager.

When the boot manager has its own partition, that partition can be on a 
different drive for added security and stability.

I cannot tell you the number of times I've seen Grub Error 17 between Ubuntu 
and OpenSuSE.


On Monday 28 September 2009 02:03:23 am seasoned_geek wrote:
> It's not a matter of tone.
> 
> I'm simply pointing out that most other multi-os boot engines/menus/etc.
> identify the drives in the same order as the BIOS and will even respect any
> BIOS remapping which has occurred.  Grub does not.  Anyone with multiple
>  SATA drives and DOS, Windows, or other BIOS respecting OSes on them will
>  have to use a boot manager other than Grub if they ever want to use those
>  operating systems after installing Ubuntu.
> 
> On Monday 28 September 2009 01:46:36 am Colin Watson wrote:
> > I'm not going to engage in a discussion with this tone. I will simply
> > keep the bug on the list and address it in due time.
> 

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