Hi, I am sympathetic to both Dan Burke's and Sandro Mani's points of view. I agree with Dan that this affects way too many folks to just be left be. On the other hand, I agree with Sandro that there's not much Ubuntu developers can do about it re: closed-source drivers. I also think Sandro makes a fine point that all 205 of us should be contacting the vendors -- not just our own vendor, but all of us take the time to contact all three (or more) major driver writers (i.e., ATI, Nvidia, Virtualbox).
That said, I strongly feel that the easier we make it for these vendors to fix the problem, the more likely we'll get what we want and get it sooner. Put differently, I think we need to give them as much specific and accurate information as possible. This where things break down for me. I've not read all 237+ posts, but I get the sense that no one knows for sure what's wrong, but many have suggested a change in the xorg server -- specifically concerning how xdamage events are handled -- seems the most likely cause. But do really know this for sure? We'll hurt our own cause if we send them down a garden path. I suspect a useful approach is simply to tell the vendors (a) what the problem is and (b) that we don't know for sure what the problem is, but that (c) we do know what was done to fix the problem within xorg, vino, and/or the open source drivers (and give the detailed information thereof). So, my question is, can anyone tell me -- as concisely but also as accurately as possible -- what (c) is? In other words, what *do* we know about changed (and where) to cause the problem, and what *do* we know has been changed to correct things (and where), at least on the open-source side of things? If some folks can answer this for me, I for one would be happy to write some email templates and help organize a simple email campaign. I for one want this fixed. And even the effort doesn't succeed, I feel I'll learn something about the vendors. I run Ubuntu 9.10 on several machines, including both Nvidia and ATI machines, and I use VirtualBox routinely. If one vendor is more responsive then the others re: getting a fix out, then I'll be more likely to buy their products next time. Doug -- Compiz / vnc screen refresh with nvidia-restricted driver/VirtualBox/ATI fglrx driver using X.org https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353126 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs