sorry about this, but i have been posting around the following message:

This sounds like it could be the problem we are talking about on 
"network-manager does not detect network"


But i meant to say This sounds like it could be the problem we are talking 
about on "can't see available networks"


also, I checked and i don't seem to have network manager installed.  could it 
be network-admin?

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