Robbie, I think your comment, and especially the caps, is a bit over the top. From this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/index.html) it is extremely clear that the documentation is for 11.04 and is up to date. On each page of the serverguide it shows clearly at the top that the page is for 11.04 (https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C /introduction-chap.html). The branding doesn't really imply that the information is outdated. There is similar branding on the Ubuntu Forum.
Obviously it is important to update the branding, which is why we have the bug report. But it will take someone with a fair bit of free time who is familiar (or willing to get familiar) with the documentation toolchains and processes. Here is some information on how help.ubuntu.com works and what would be needed to fix this bug, in case someone is interested in working on it. If not, I will be looking to work on this bug at some stage over this release cycle with a view to fixing it by Ubuntu 11.10. If someone wants to work on this before then, I am happy to mentor it. There is some information here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/BuildingDocumentation) but it is probably incomplete and this should help. *One thing that would be really helpful* would be if someone with graphic software skills could implement a logo for the top right hand corner of the site. So, similar to the "Ubuntu wiki" logo on wiki.ubuntu.com, but enough to make it clear that the site is for documentation. I guess substituting the word "documentation" for the word "wiki" in the appropriate font would be sufficient. help.ubuntu.com has two components, the wiki (help.ubuntu.com/community) and the static html (help.ubuntu.com/). For consistency both parts should be updated at the same time. The themes for each component must be consistent and there should be a way for the user to distinguish between the two (as there is now). = Static html = This is generated from our xml documentation which is found in our bzr branches. Generally in each bzr branch there is a Makefile which contains the instructions and commands needed to build the html. The html is produced by xslt stylesheets which are used in conjunction with processing tools to build html. Part of the theme is in the xslt files, and part of the theme is in css files. For all versions prior to Ubuntu 11.04, the relevant code and theming is in the ubuntu-doc branches (see the main series here: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs). For Ubuntu 11.04, the relevant code and themeing is in the gnome-user-doc branch. The xslt files are different for Ubuntu 11.04, because we changed the documentation format used for Ubuntu documentation, using Mallard instead of Docbook. This required some new theming to be written. There are certain pages which are generated manually by copying them over from one release to the next. These include: * the index page for each release; * the index page for the installation guide; * the main index page for the site gets updated manually. Apart from these, all other pages in the site are generated using the build tools described above (unless I'm missing something). Updating this part of the website will involve designing new xslt stylesheets for the Docbook and Mallard files, and regenerating the html for each version of Ubuntu carried on the website. We can probably use one of the themes on the ubuntu-website project (https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website), probably the light-base- theme. But the xslt will require some work. The eventual product can be pushed to our bzr branch for help.ubuntu.com (https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu- docs/help.ubuntu.com), which is automatically synched once a day. In the future, I think there is an interesting discussion we should have about whether we should carry so many versions on the website. Having so many versions makes it quite time consuming and difficult to update. = Wiki = The wiki runs on MoinMoin software and the theme is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-docs/helpwiki-newtheme This is pretty much simply taking the moin theme for the new brand (there is a base here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website- community/ubuntu-website/light-wiki) and customising it for the help.ubuntu.com site. There is no staging server but a good way to test the theme as it is being developed is to download a desktop version of moin (instructions here: http://moinmo.in/DesktopEdition) - but make sure you get the same version as the one used on help.ubuntu.com (1.6.3). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/589057 Title: help.ubuntu.com still uses old logo/branding To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+bug/589057/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
