I did clean out the lists folder straight after the whoops and rebuilt with 
another lazy value which does now work it just happens to be 2 meg smaller than 
the one you suggested but i'll up the value anyway since theres no harm in more 
space.
Im using the Mircrosoft stuff at the monent so Ill pop a note in later.

Many Thanks.

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