"Followed instructions from here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/990211 and
installed pavucontrol - after some messing about it works

Still think this is a bug as a default installation is screwing up"

Could you define "some messing about"? because i have the same toshiba
r850, and i used pavucontrol, and could not make the internal mic work.

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  [TECRA R850, Realtek ALC269VB, Mic, Internal] No sound captured at all

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