On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 01:04:44PM -0000, Mark - Syminet wrote: > TL;DR please give your users an exact explanation as to why you made > plymouth such a strong dependency.
This explanation has been given repeatedly in bug reports. Which just goes to show why launchpad bugs are the wrong place to give such explanations, because nobody reads them. But ok, I'll try once more. The misunderstanding here is that you are viewing plymouth as a "boot splash". It is not. It is a boot-time I/O serializer. This is an absolute requirement on a system with a fast event-based boot like upstart, because without it you can never reliably interact with the system at boot time - interaction that's needed for processes like fsck, and cryptsetup. You have one console, and N fscks that may be running in parallel, and you need to be darned sure that your keypresses are controlling the right process. That's why having fsck spit output directly to the console is not a suitable solution. And the fact that the display of the plymouth splash screen can be toggled at runtime is why having a config file to control where mountall sends it output is not suitable either. Now, in addition to multiplexing we also care about users having a nice-looking boot experience, which is why the graphical splash is the default (and has been since long before plymouth was around) and most of the engineering work has been around making the graphical experience work smoothly. This unfortunately means that some things don't work as well when using the details plugin - such as this issue described here. But that's a priority because of server, not because desktop users might opt out of the graphical splash when it's working. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/765735 Title: mountall should cause fsck to show progress on text console To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/765735/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
