** Attachment added: "settings editor... confusing"
   
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** Description changed:

  I recently took Xubuntu for a test drive. One of the most annoying
  problems I encountered was with the multimedia keys. They didn't work at
  all out of the box. Following some helpful guides, which were probably
  wrong, I eventually half-fixed it.
  
  First I had to install xfce4-mixer, because it wasn't installed.
  
  Then I had to run xfce4-mixer manually, because the sound settings
  indicator opens the pulse audio settings.
  
  Then I had to manually "select controls..." (pictured) the sound card
  mixers (pictured) that I wanted to control in the mixer settings. This
  was confusing as there was no indication of why I was adding them yet,
  and just adding them did nothing obviously useful. By default no
  controls were added and there are multiple audio hardware on this
  system.
  
  Next I had to open xfce settings editor (pictured) and manually enter
  the name of the sound card I wanted the keys to control. Again, this was
- not documented so I had to work on trial and error.
+ not documented so I had to work on trial and error. Without xfce4-mixer
+ installed, these keys don't exist.
  
  Now finally the keys sort of work. Volume up and down works, mute works,
  but pressing mute a second time does not unmute the sound, nor does
  volume up/down.
  
  Additionally, sometimes the mixer that needs to be controlled switches
  between "HDA ATI SB Alsa Mixer" and "Playback Built In Analogue Stereo
  Pulse Audio Mixer" with no obvious indication of why.
  
  All in all this leads to a very poor user experience compared to what is
  in standard Ubuntu desktop, which just works.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: xfce4-mixer 1:4.8.0-3ubuntu2
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sun Dec  2 23:50:52 2012
  MarkForUpload: True
  SourcePackage: xfce4-mixer
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Description changed:

  I recently took Xubuntu for a test drive. One of the most annoying
  problems I encountered was with the multimedia keys. They didn't work at
  all out of the box. Following some helpful guides, which were probably
  wrong, I eventually half-fixed it.
  
  First I had to install xfce4-mixer, because it wasn't installed.
  
  Then I had to run xfce4-mixer manually, because the sound settings
  indicator opens the pulse audio settings.
  
  Then I had to manually "select controls..." (pictured) the sound card
  mixers (pictured) that I wanted to control in the mixer settings. This
  was confusing as there was no indication of why I was adding them yet,
  and just adding them did nothing obviously useful. By default no
  controls were added and there are multiple audio hardware on this
  system.
  
  Next I had to open xfce settings editor (pictured) and manually enter
  the name of the sound card I wanted the keys to control. Again, this was
  not documented so I had to work on trial and error. Without xfce4-mixer
  installed, these keys don't exist.
  
  Now finally the keys sort of work. Volume up and down works, mute works,
  but pressing mute a second time does not unmute the sound, nor does
  volume up/down.
  
  Additionally, sometimes the mixer that needs to be controlled switches
  between "HDA ATI SB Alsa Mixer" and "Playback Built In Analogue Stereo
- Pulse Audio Mixer" with no obvious indication of why.
+ Pulse Audio Mixer" with no obvious indication of why. When this happens
+ I have to go into the settings editor again and change the "Active Card"
+ manually.
  
  All in all this leads to a very poor user experience compared to what is
  in standard Ubuntu desktop, which just works.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: xfce4-mixer 1:4.8.0-3ubuntu2
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sun Dec  2 23:50:52 2012
  MarkForUpload: True
  SourcePackage: xfce4-mixer
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Also affects: xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
       Status: New

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