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On 4/8/2013 2:59 PM, xlash911 wrote:
> It is TM1 that I see in the logs.

The TM1 method actually does not change the CPU frequency, but rather
forces it into and out of its idle state rapidly.  Because of this, it
is not nearly as effective as the TM2 method, which actually lowers
the voltage and frequency, and can lower it in small steps to reach a
point that does not overheat, but does not lose much performance.  The
TM1 method is either on or off.

> Thanks for the detail explanation. The only thing it doesn't
> explain, is why this only happens when using Ubuntu and not
> Windows... I'll be fore to revert if it continues to crash.

It just so happens that whatever the exact things Ubuntu is doing
happens to cause a bit more heat, or heat more concentrated in time
than whatever you are doing elsewhere.  This sort of thing is quite
common with overheating problems.  For instance, if you check the
message boards for any popular video game you will find plenty of
people complaining that their system never overheats except when
playing the game, and so it must be the game's fault.  This is a
logical fallacy.  The game, or in this case, Ubuntu and whatever you
are running on it may be a contributing factor, but the fault lies in
the hardware as the hardware is supposed to prevent overheating no
matter what the software does.

> Ubuntu will allow systems temp to go up without stop? Shouldn't it
> slow down frequency or anything to prevent overheating?

As I said before, it is the hardware, not Ubuntu that throttles the
frequency to prevent overheating.  Ubuntu just notices when it happens
and logs it so you can know that you have a hardware problem.

> In addition, I see CPUX: Core temperature/speed above threshold,
> cpu clock throttled, and right after (same time), it's "normal".
> Then it crash. This seems to point to a reset in the throttling
> mecanism... isn't?  I see this

Normally the throttling lifts when the temperature goes back down a
bit.  If it only drops one degree and the throttling disengages, then
a lot of heat is generated on a very busy cpu, it can quickly spike
the temperature again.  If the thermal solution in your system cuts
corners, that spike may hit the critical point faster than the
throttling can re-engage.  This is more likely to happen with TM1 than
with TM2 due to the all-or-nothing approach of TM1.

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