Updating my feedback.
I tried the above suggestions and indeed module-bluetooth-discover was not 
loaded by default, had to manually load it, but it makes no difference.

The bottom line is my headset works ok with blueman, but if i remove
blueman and try built in standard bluez with standard gnome interface-
pairing-nonesense, it doesnt work.

Perhaps the issue is with the gnome discoverer, because i cant pair, as in it 
wont recognize the device with it.
And its prob written in pythn right? its worth looking into ;).

Either way, its a bluez/gnome-not-sure-its-name discoverer/standard
ubuntu interface problem.

At least for me

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  [Bluetooth + 14.04] Bluetooth headsets are not working after last
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