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On 2013-11-19T18:26:04+00:00 Norbert wrote:

I have Ubuntu 12.04.3 with GNOME 3.4 and udisks 1.0.4-5ubuntu2.1. With
this software I can do a Safely remove of a USB-flash or external USB-
HDD from nautilus (3.4.2-0ubuntu8) and from gnome-disk-utility
(3.0.2-2ubuntu7).

In modern linux distros (such as Ubuntu 13.04, 13.10, Mageia 4, Fedora
19, OpenSuse 12.3) there is no Safely remove option in Nautilus (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1067876 and
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60293).

In gnome-disks Safely remove / Poweroff is appeared again (from 3.8, see
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675542), but it does not
spin-down external USB-HDD.

In some linux distros I can spin-down my disk with "udisks --detach
/dev/sdX", but it is not user-friendly.

So please, enable spin-down on the udisks side.

I understand that external SATA (and IDE) HDDs are hot-pluggable and
hot-swappable, but it is not comfortable for me to detach rotating
drive.

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On 2013-12-24T09:13:35+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Bug exists in Fedora 20 with gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0
UDisks 2.1.1 (built against 2.1.1).

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On 2013-12-24T09:15:41+00:00 Norbert wrote:

There is no Safely remove option in Nautilus 3.10.1 too.

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On 2014-01-18T12:42:59+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Tested again on Arch with 
* gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0 UDisks 2.1.1 (built against 2.1.1)
* Nautilus 3.10.1

- the bug exists with both applications. Please fix it.

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On 2014-01-20T20:52:54+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

The reason that

 $ udisks --detach /dev/sdX

spins down the disk properly but clicking the "Power off" menu item in
the GNOME Disks application doesn't has to do with the fact that the
udisks program is from udisks version 1 and was rewritten in udisks
version 2.

udisks v1: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/tree/src/helpers/job-
drive-detach.c?id=1.0.4

udisks v2:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/tree/src/udiskslinuxdrive.c?id=2.1.2#n1195

As you can see, both v1 and v2 does this by writing a '1' to the
'remove' sysfs attribute on the parent USB device, as per

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=253e05724f9230910344357b1142ad8642ff9f5a

and this makes most USB-attached disk drives actually power down - at
least all the different devices that I've tested with.

However, what's missing in v2 (and present in v1) is the following steps

 1. sending the SCSI SYNCHRONIZE CACHE command
 2. sending START/STOP UNIT command
 3. unbinding the USB Mass Storage kernel driver

Notably, there's actually a TODO item in v2 for doing this:

 /* TODO: Send the eject? Send SCSI START STOP UNIT? */

Now, I don't think that 3. is necessary as it happens as part of writing
to the 'remove' sysfs file. That leaves 1. and 2.

Here's what I'd like to you try. Does

 sg_start --stop /dev/sdX

do what you want? If so, we should add 1. and 2. to v2.

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On 2014-01-21T17:32:38+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Dear David!
First of all I would like to thank you for answer and recommendation!

I tested my USB-harddrives with sg_start utility. Thank you for hint, I
did not know about SCSI utilities before.

I made such tests under Ubuntu 12.04.4, Fedora 20 and OpenSuSe 13.1 with all 
installed updates.
* Ubuntu 12.04.4 does not have udisks2, it has udisks 1.0.4-5ubuntu2.1, 
sg3-utils 1.33-1.
* Fedora 20 has udisks-1.0.4-12.fc20.i686, udisks2-2.1.2-1.fc20.i686, 
sg3_utils-1.37-2.fc20.i686.
* OpenSuSe 13.1 has udisks-1.0.4-13.1.3.i586, udisks2-2.1.1-2.1.3.i586, 
sg3_utils-1.36-3.1.2.i586.

For more adequate results I disabled auto-mount feature in GNOME with
dconf-editor (as recommended here -
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Configuring_Automounting).


My test results are the following:
1. For my USB-HDD (Seagate ST9750420A in USB 2.0 Tsunami e-data 2500 enclosure, 
  lsusb - 04fc:0c25 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd SATALink SPIF225A)
    1.1. command “sg_start --stop /dev/sdX” really spin-downs my drive 
(sometimes on 2nd or 3rd attempt - I don’t know why), device remains in system 
and spin-up again only on my demand.
    1.2. command “udisks --detach /dev/sdX” spin-downs my drive (always on 1st 
attempt), device is completely removed from system after detach.

2. For my USB 3.0 WD My Passport Ultra (WD WD20NMVW,
  lsusb - 1058:0743 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.)
    2.1. command “sg_start --stop /dev/sdX” is ignored by this HDD (it make one 
click, but does not spin-down). Maybe it is because of 
proprietary/non-fully-compliant ATA-command set in WD’s controller.
    2.2. command “udisks --detach /dev/sdX” spin-downs my drive (on 1st attempt 
always), device is completely removed from system after detach.

So the results are identical for all three distros.
For me it seems, that “udisks --detach” works better and in 100% (on all 
distros and with proprietary WD HDD-controller).
So if you have time, please, do deeper comparison between udisks v.1, udisks 
v.2 and sg_start.

I'm ready to do more testing if you send me concrete instruction, but I
am not expert and I do not know how to debug/trace/log ATA and udisks.

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On 2014-01-21T17:52:34+00:00 programmist11180 wrote:

Debian, udisks2 v 2.1.2-1. When I do safely remove of Seagate Portable
from Thunar, udisks2 doesn't switch off a disk power when detaching. But
udisks1 switch off a disk power.

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On 2014-01-25T19:06:26+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

Thanks for testing. I'll look into making udisks2 sending SYNCHRONIZE
CACHE and START/STOP UNIT commands. Stay tuned.

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On 2014-01-26T20:16:32+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

OK, I just made that change

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=fcdd8f48b6ac9b1b6da82fdf5f59230fc2ea6feb

and tested it with a couple of different units. Notes

 - One of my devices (bus-powered) does not accept the START STOP UNIT
   command so we just continue if it fails. That is, this patch should
   not break existing behavior.

 - Another device (not bus-powered) used to spin down a couple of seconds
   after removing power to the USB port. With this patch it spins down
   immediately. (Which is actually nicer.)

 - Still works on USB sticks etc.

 - I didn't add SCSI SYNCHRONIZE CACHE as that command failed on all my
   devices. I also don't think it's necessary as the device drivers will
   issue something like this in part of the fsync(2) call that we do
   before this.

Please test if the patch works and report back - thanks!

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On 2014-01-26T21:52:38+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

> command “sg_start --stop /dev/sdX” really spin-downs my drive (sometimes
> on 2nd or 3rd attempt - I don’t know why), device remains in system and
> spin-up again only on my demand.

Btw, this is because the sg_start command opens the device node with
O_RDWR which causes an uevent 'change' event to fire when the command
completes. This in turn causes udev rules to fire which accesses the
disk which causes it to spin up again. In the patch I committed to
udisks to do this, we use O_RDONLY to avoid this.

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On 2014-02-02T22:59:15+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Thank you for your commits, David!

I installed all build-dependencies on my Ubuntu 14.04 system with 'apt-
get install build-dep', did a 'git clone
git://anongit.freedesktop.org/udisks', did './autogen.sh', did 'make',
did 'sudo checkinstall make install', verified that I have udisks 2.1.3
installed with 'apt-cache policy', did 'mv
/usr/local/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/' and rebooted my machine.

Please note: automount is disabled.
What I get after reboot?


1. for USB-HDDs (both drives have EXT4 and NTFS partitions)
1.1. Seagate - 'Safely remove drive' option in Nautilus spinned-down it, 
gnome-disks spinned-down it after click on 'Power off the drive'. The 
'udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdX' works too. 
If I enable automount, the 'Safely remove drive'/'Power off the drive' 
spins-down my drive. It's very good!

1.2. WD - 'Safely remove drive' option in Nautilus spinned-down it, gnome-disks 
'Power off the drive' and 'udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdX' works too.
But there is a little difference - if I enable automount the 'Safely remove 
drive'/'Power off the drive' does not spin-down the disk (disk plates rotating, 
but device is removed from system), I reopen the bug because of this.

2. for USB-flashes
There is no 'Safely remove drive' option in Nautilus for my USB-flashes. After 
'Eject' the parent device remains in system and may be powered-off by 
gnome-disks. For me it's a good compromise between udisks1 and udisks2 behavior.


I'm ready to test and collect logs of my WD USB-HDD. I can't understand why 
Seagate drive unmounts all partitions before power-off, but WD does not.
What logs can help you to understand the problem?

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On 2014-02-03T17:34:13+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

Hey, thanks for testing the patches.

(In reply to comment #10)
> 1.2. WD - 'Safely remove drive' option in Nautilus spinned-down it,
> gnome-disks 'Power off the drive' and 'udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdX'
> works too.
> But there is a little difference - if I enable automount

I have an idea of what's wrong here but before I speculate on that, what
exactly does "enable automount" mean? Are you referring to having the
'auto' option in the /etc/fstab file?

> the 'Safely remove
> drive'/'Power off the drive' does not spin-down the disk (disk plates
> rotating, but device is removed from system), I reopen the bug because of
> this.
> 
> 2. for USB-flashes
> There is no 'Safely remove drive' option in Nautilus for my USB-flashes.
> After 'Eject' the parent device remains in system and may be powered-off by
> gnome-disks. For me it's a good compromise between udisks1 and udisks2
> behavior.
> 
> 
> I'm ready to test and collect logs of my WD USB-HDD. I can't understand why
> Seagate drive unmounts all partitions before power-off, but WD does not.
> What logs can help you to understand the problem?

When the system is running with the WD USB-HDD, please include the
output of 'gvfs-mount -li' from a non-root shell in a terminal in the
desktop session.

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On 2014-02-03T18:19:50+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Thank you for reply, David!

>I have an idea of what's wrong here but before I speculate on that,
what exactly does "enable automount" mean? Are you referring to having
the 'auto' option in the /etc/fstab file?

By "enable automount" I mean these dconf-editor parameters:
org.gnome.desktop.media-handling.automount and org.gnome.desktop.media-
handling.automount-open (see comment #5). So if I set both parameters to
true (in dconf-editor) I get all two partitions of my drive mounted in
Nautilus on device connection.

>When the system is running with the WD USB-HDD, please include the
output of 'gvfs-mount -li' from a non-root shell in a terminal in the
desktop session.

The output of 'gvfs-mount -li' for my WD USB-HDD is as follows:
        Drive(3): WD My Passport 0743
          Type: GProxyDrive (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
          ids:
           unix-device: '/dev/sdc'
          themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
          symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
          is_media_removable=0
          has_media=1
          is_media_check_automatic=1
          can_poll_for_media=0
          can_eject=0
          can_start=0
          can_stop=1
          start_stop_type=shutdown
          sort_key=01hotplug/1391451089446989
          Volume(0): WD_2TB_NTFS
            Type: GProxyVolume (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
            ids:
             class: 'device'
             unix-device: '/dev/sdc2'
             uuid: '32BA1ADB5E526052'
             label: 'WD_2TB_NTFS'
            themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            can_mount=1
            can_eject=0
            should_automount=1
            sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451089661368
          Volume(1): WD_2TB_EXT4
            Type: GProxyVolume (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
            ids:
             class: 'device'
             unix-device: '/dev/sdc1'
             uuid: '6d296a81-e054-4e09-a092-cee6a0041e0c'
             label: 'WD_2TB_EXT4'
            themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            can_mount=1
            can_eject=0
            should_automount=1
            sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451089662205
            Mount(0): WD_2TB_EXT4 -> file:///run/media/flash/WD_2TB_EXT4
              Type: GProxyMount (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
              default_location=file:///run/media/flash/WD_2TB_EXT4
              themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
              symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
              can_unmount=1
              can_eject=0
              is_shadowed=0
              sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451089941622


For my Seagate HDD I have:


        Drive(3): ST950042 0AS
          Type: GProxyDrive (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
          ids:
           unix-device: '/dev/sdc'
          themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
          symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
          is_media_removable=0
          has_media=1
          is_media_check_automatic=1
          can_poll_for_media=0
          can_eject=0
          can_start=0
          can_stop=1
          start_stop_type=shutdown
          sort_key=01hotplug/1391451261668976
          Volume(0): NTFS
            Type: GProxyVolume (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
            ids:
             class: 'device'
             unix-device: '/dev/sdc2'
             uuid: '5F6174ED0C58C4B3'
             label: 'NTFS'
            themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            can_mount=1
            can_eject=0
            should_automount=1
            sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451261990760
            Mount(0): NTFS -> file:///run/media/flash/NTFS
              Type: GProxyMount (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
              default_location=file:///run/media/flash/NTFS
              themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
              symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
              can_unmount=1
              can_eject=0
              is_shadowed=0
              sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451263178059
          Volume(1): GENTOO
            Type: GProxyVolume (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
            ids:
             class: 'device'
             unix-device: '/dev/sdc1'
             uuid: '52e2b7ea-21e0-4973-aeae-f5b7edfadf40'
             label: 'GENTOO'
            themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
            can_mount=1
            can_eject=0
            should_automount=1
            sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451261992313
            Mount(0): GENTOO -> file:///run/media/flash/GENTOO
              Type: GProxyMount (GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2)
              default_location=file:///run/media/flash/GENTOO
              themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb]  [drive-harddisk]  [drive]
              symbolic themed icons:  [drive-harddisk-usb-symbolic]  
[drive-harddisk-symbolic]  [drive-symbolic]  [drive-harddisk-usb]  
[drive-harddisk]  [drive]
              can_unmount=1
              can_eject=0
              is_shadowed=0
              sort_key=gvfs.time_detected_usec.1391451262121538
        

I hope this help you to understand the problem.

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On 2014-02-03T18:43:35+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

(Hmm, the drives have

          can_stop=1
          start_stop_type=shutdown

so everything should be good. My guess is that it's the NTFS partition
that is the culprit. Specifically, unmounting it via udisks somehow
fails.)

If you manually unmount the partitions, does powering down the drive
work? Specifically, try this

 1. Unmount all partitions using Disks
    - if that fails, try 'umount /dev/sdXN' from a terminal. Does that work?
 2. Press the "Power off" button in Disks when everything has been unmounted.

Does that work?

Also, please include all messages from udisks from syslog (e.g.
/var/log/messages or similar) when pressing the "Power off" button in
Disks. It should contain some useful info.

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On 2014-02-04T19:11:32+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Today I tested 5 other drives with different paritioning schemes (1 primary + 1 
extended partition with some logical partitions in it):
3 of them were successfully Safely removed (in Nautilus) and Powered off (in 
Disks), 
2 of them were successfully Safely removed (in Nautilus) and Powered off (in 
Disks) only after manual unmount.

>If you manually unmount the partitions, does powering down the drive work?
>Specifically, try this
>
> 1. Unmount all partitions using Disks
>    - if that fails, try 'umount /dev/sdXN' from a terminal. Does that work?
did it in Disks with my WD drive

> 2. Press the "Power off" button in Disks when everything has been unmounted.
did it in Disks - my WD drive is spinned down.

>Does that work?
So it works.

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On 2014-02-04T19:16:33+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Created attachment 93407
Syslog/Message for my WD USB-HDD (from plugging-in to Safely remove) - Ubuntu 
14.04 with UDisks 2.1.3

>Also, please include all messages from udisks from syslog (e.g.
/var/log/messages or similar) when pressing the "Power off" button in
Disks. It should contain some useful info.

I attached full log-file for my WD USB-HDD. It contains device plugging-
in, detection by automount feature, un-mounting both partiotion in
Disks, Powering off in Disks, device plugging-out  as you recommended.

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On 2014-02-04T20:04:02+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Created attachment 93414
Syslog/Message for my WD USB-HDD (from plugging-in to Safely remove) - Ubuntu 
12.04 with UDisks 1.0.4-5ubuntu2.1

If that can help I prepared syslog/messages for my WD-HDD in Ubuntu
12.04 too. Sequence is identical to comment 15.

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On 2014-02-04T20:24:50+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

Let me see if I understand this correctly:

 1. Manually unmount, then power-off via the Disks GUI works as expected.
 2. The "safely remove drive" button in Nautilus does not work as expected.

Is that about right?

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On 2014-02-04T20:35:43+00:00 Norbert wrote:

It seems that my english is not perfect. I'm sorry.

Let's consider only WD-HDD.

>Let me see if I understand this correctly:
> 1. Manually unmount, then power-off via the Disks GUI works as expected.
Yes.
> 2. The "safely remove drive" button in Nautilus does not work as expected.
No. It works as expected on other drives, but not WD.
>Is that about right?
Yes and no.

Safely remove (in Nautilus) and Power off (in Disks) works as expected
only if I manually unmount all WD partitions before Safe removal / Power
off.

If I unmount all WD partitions manually and then do Safe removal / Power
off HDD spins down.

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On 2014-02-04T20:54:20+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

OK, I'm interested in output of /var/log/messages when it doesn't work
with the WD. Or is that what you posted in comment 15?

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On 2014-02-04T21:31:32+00:00 Norbert wrote:

>OK, I'm interested in output of /var/log/messages when it doesn't work with 
>the WD. Or is that what you posted in comment 15?
I tested it again - the log in comment 15 represent both situations - when 
drive spinned-down and when it does not. Only timestamps differ, messages order 
is the same.


With udisks1 this WD-HDD spins-down (by Safely remove in Nautilus or Power off 
in Disks) even if all partitions mounted, with udisks2 it does not. 
There is a little difference between udisks1 and udisks2 "powering off drive" 
algorithms. What other log-file can I attach to help you to understand the 
problem?

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On 2014-02-05T19:46:34+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

(In reply to comment #20)
> >OK, I'm interested in output of /var/log/messages when it doesn't work with 
> >the WD. Or is that what you posted in comment 15?
> I tested it again - the log in comment 15 represent both situations - when
> drive spinned-down and when it does not. Only timestamps differ, messages
> order is the same.
> 
> 
> With udisks1 this WD-HDD spins-down (by Safely remove in Nautilus or Power
> off in Disks) even if all partitions mounted, with udisks2 it does not. 
> There is a little difference between udisks1 and udisks2 "powering off
> drive" algorithms. What other log-file can I attach to help you to
> understand the problem?

Your testing with udisks1 is on an older version of Ubuntu (12.04 vs.
14.04) isn't it? If so, any chance you can install the udisks1 package
on the same OS as you tested with udisks2? The packages are parallel-
installable (and called 'udisks' and 'udisks2') so it should be as
simple as 'apt-get install udisks' and then run "udisks --detach
/dev/sdX".

I'm asking for this because I think this is due to a kernel and/or ntfs-
3g problem.

Another thing to try would be to see if it happens if the filesystem
type is *not* ntfs, e.g. try with ext4. (I realize this may not be
possible as you may not want to reformat the disk.)

To recap, the only difference now from udisks1 is that udisks2 does not
send SYNCHRONIZE CACHE before START STOP UNIT (it didn't work on any of
my devices when I make the recent udisks2 changes). If it turns out that
udisks1 works as expected on 14.04, I will try to add this change to see
if it makes the difference...

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On 2014-02-05T21:19:22+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Created attachment 93492
log-files for my WD-HDD (Ubuntu 14.04 with udisks1 and udisks2)

Thank you for reply, David.

>Your testing with udisks1 is on an older version of Ubuntu (12.04 vs. 14.04) 
>isn't it? If so, any chance you can install the udisks1 package on the same OS 
>as you tested with udisks2? The packages are parallel-installable (and called 
>'udisks' and 'udisks2') so it should be as simple as 'apt-get install udisks' 
>and then run "udisks --detach /dev/sdX".
I have already installed udisks1 (1.0.4-8ubuntu1) on Ubuntu 14.04 and it works 
as expected on all my drives if I unmount all partitions manually (from 
console, Nautilus or Disks - it does not matter).

>I'm asking for this because I think this is due to a kernel and/or ntfs-3g 
>problem.
For me it seems that we have timing/race issue in udisks2.

>Another thing to try would be to see if it happens if the filesystem type is 
>*not* ntfs, e.g. try with ext4. (I realize this may not be possible as you may 
>not want to reformat the disk.)
I have 500Gb of data on my NTFS partition, so I do not want to reformat my HDD. 
I'm sorry for this.

>To recap, the only difference now from udisks1 is that udisks2 does not send 
>SYNCHRONIZE CACHE before START STOP UNIT (it didn't work on any of my devices 
>when I make the recent udisks2 changes). If it turns out that udisks1 works as 
>expected on 14.04, I will try to add this change to see if it makes the 
>difference...
If there are no other differences - please add SYNCHRONIZE CACHE, I'm ready to 
do a test and report back.


I prepared an archive of log-files for my WD-HDD on Ubuntu 14.04 with udisks1 
and udisks2 installed.
The log-files are: "tailf /var/log/syslog", "gvfs-mount -o", "udisksctl 
monitor", "udisks --monitor-detail".
The test-cases are:
1. udisks2 Safely remove from Disks (mounted) = FAIL - not spinned down
    connect, auto-mount by Nautilus, clicked Power off in Disks, disconnect
2. udisks2 Safely remove from Disks (unmounted) = SUCCESS - spinned down
    connect auto-mount by Nautilus, unmount in Nautilus, clicked Safely remove 
drive in Nautilus, disconnect
3. udisks2 Safely remove from Nautilus (mounted) FAIL - not spinned down
    connect, auto-mount by Nautilus, clicked Safely remove drive in Nautilus, 
disconnect
4. udisks2 Safely remove from Nautilus (unmounted) =  SUCCESS - spinned down
    connect, auto-mount by Nautilus, unmount in Nautilus, clicked Safely remove 
drive in Nautilus, disconnect
5. udisks --detach Safely remove (unmounted) = SUCCESS - spinned down
    connect, auto-mount by Nautilus, unmount in Nautilus, sent "udisks --detach 
/dev/sdX" in console, disconnect

On FAIL-cases there are interesting lines in "udisks --monitor-detail"
    (udisks:2365): udisks-WARNING **: Couldn't call GetAll() to get properties 
for /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sdc2: Method "GetAll" with signature "s" on 
interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
may be it cause problems. I do not know.
  
I'm ready to test your new commits.

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On 2014-02-05T22:28:12+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

(In reply to comment #22)
> I have 500Gb of data on my NTFS partition, so I do not want to reformat my
> HDD. I'm sorry for this.

Fair enough. I'll try to see if I can repro on my hardware.

> If there are no other differences - please add SYNCHRONIZE CACHE, I'm ready
> to do a test and report back.

Will do - thanks for testing!

> I prepared an archive of log-files for my WD-HDD on Ubuntu 14.04 with
> udisks1 and udisks2 installed.

Thanks for doing that - it's very helpful!

> On FAIL-cases there are interesting lines in "udisks --monitor-detail"
>     (udisks:2365): udisks-WARNING **: Couldn't call GetAll() to get
> properties for /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sdc2: Method "GetAll" with
> signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
> may be it cause problems. I do not know.

This is likely not a problem.

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On 2014-02-06T13:02:47+00:00 programmist11180 wrote:

When I try execute (udisks2 installed):

$ udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sde

It says: "Unknown command `power-off'"

What do I do not so?

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On 2014-02-06T13:17:44+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Hello, Programmist11180!
>From comment #8 to #23 we talk about unrelease udisks2 version from 
>git-repository.

If you are on Ubuntu (or Mint, or other Debian/Ubuntu based distro) you
can follow my instruction (in comment #10) to compile udisks2 from
latest sources and test "udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sde" again.

I have compiled deb-package for 14.04 i686 - I can post it here if you
have any problems with compilation.

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On 2014-02-08T15:41:03+00:00 programmist11180 wrote:

Hello nrbrtx.
I have compiled and installed udisks 2.1.3. And I have a problem. udisksctl not 
work.

$ udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sde

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE
(instance)' failed

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE
(instance)' failed

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE
(instance)' failed

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE
(instance)' failed

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE
(instance)' failed

(process:3807): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 
'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
Error connecting to the udisks daemon: Ошибка вызова StartServiceByName для 
org.freedesktop.UDisks2: Время ожидания истекло


/var/log/syslog

Feb  8 18:54:37 debian-terminal dbus[2839]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.UDisks2' (using servicehelper)
Feb  8 18:54:37 debian-terminal udisksd[3540]: udisks daemon version 2.1.3 
starting
Feb  8 18:55:02 debian-terminal dbus[2839]: [system] Failed to activate service 
'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out
Feb  8 18:55:07 debian-terminal dbus[2839]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.UDisks2' (using servicehelper)
Feb  8 18:55:07 debian-terminal udisksd[3810]: udisks daemon version 2.1.3 
starting
Feb  8 18:55:32 debian-terminal dbus[2839]: [system] Failed to activate service 
'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out

$ ps aux | grep udisks
nikts     3531  0.0  0.0 205256  3312 ?        Sl   18:54   0:00 
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-m
root      3540  0.0  0.1 366324  4912 ?        Sl   18:54   0:01 
/usr/local/lib/udisks2/udisksd --no
root      3810  0.0  0.1 366324  4916 ?        Sl   18:55   0:01 
/usr/local/lib/udisks2/udisksd --no

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On 2014-02-10T19:33:04+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Hello, Programmist11180!

Did you completely followed my instruction in comment #10? Have you rebooted PC 
after udisks 2.1.3 installation?
Do you have Ubuntu 14.04 as me?

Does power-off work from gnome-disks or Nautilus?

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On 2014-02-10T20:28:44+00:00 programmist11180 wrote:

nrbrtx, I have Debian Wheezy (with some Sid), and Thunar filemanager.
The paths in built udisks and udisks from repository differs.
This solve the problem
sudo cp /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.UDisks2.conf 
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/

But there is an another problem:
$ udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sde
Error looking up object for device /dev/sde

The 'eject' option not available in Thunar with built udisks. Therefore
I can't check power-off.

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On 2014-02-10T20:36:43+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Programmist11180, you can always detect which devices are connected with
"fdisk -l" (called by root) or watch syslog on device connection. It seems that 
/dev/sde device does not exist. Also you can check which storage devices are 
connected in gnome-disks (previously palimsest).

Usually /dev/sda is your hard disk, the removable devices start from
/dev/sdb.

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On 2014-02-11T05:23:30+00:00 programmist11180 wrote:

sudo cp /usr/local/lib/libudisks2.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-
gnu/libudisks2.so.0.0.0

And after reboot 'eject' became available in Thunar.

This is my small test:
1. Seagate Portable. Filesystem - one big NTFS volume. Eject from Thunar - no 
power-off. Disable volume and then eject from Thunar - disk power-offs. Umount 
volume and udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sde also spin-down disk.

2. U3 flash. Filesystem - one big FAT32. Eject from Thunar - flash
power-offs.

3. WD Passport. Filesystem - one big NTFS. No power-off in all cases.
Also no power-off in old udisks. I think that this disk may not support
this feature.

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On 2014-03-08T21:11:33+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Created attachment 95371
strace nautilus with udisks2, WD-HDD safely remove (ok - unmounted, fail - 
mounted)

Dear, David!
I look udisks2 git-repo, it seems that there are no changes since last comments.

I prepared two strace logs for nautilus with my WD-HDD connected:
* nautilus_ok.txt represent case no 4 of my comment #22
* nautilus_fail.txt represent case no 3 of my comment #22

I hope that this log-files will help determine the root of the safely-
remove problems. Also I still hope that we can get udisks1 functionality
in new udisks2.

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On 2014-03-10T21:53:31+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

Hi, sorry for the lack of updates. Nothing special, just been busy with
work, I'm still planning on adding the SYNCHRONIZE CACHE command.
Hopefully I'll get to look at it soon. Thanks.

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On 2014-03-26T06:01:02+00:00 Zeuthen wrote:

Hi, finally got around to making udisks also send the SYNCHRONIZE CACHE
command. Please check if it works. The patch is on master and here:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=429892f2ec39d66732bee0f78d093eb6d2c5433f

Thanks!

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On 2014-03-28T15:04:53+00:00 programmist11180 wrote:

I don't see a difference after applying this patch.

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On 2014-03-29T18:53:08+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Thank you for your commit, David!

But as Programmist11180 I don't see any differences after applying this
patch. My WD HDD acts as before.

How I can get full debug log about low-level actions which are performed
during Safely remove from Nautilus or Disks?

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** Changed in: udisks
       Status: Unknown => Confirmed

** Changed in: udisks
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #60293
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60293

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #675542
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675542

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