No, the wireless interface isn't configured in /etc/network/interfaces,
if i do that, and use wpa_supplicant directly works flawlessly, and of
course being configured that way the wireless interface isn't visible to
network-manager

currently the interfaces file contain the following related to the
wireless card:

auto ath0
iface ath0 inet dhcp
#       name Atheros Wireless card
#       wpa-ssid Mordor
#       wpa-driver madwifi
#       wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

but i  try even without any reference to this card included in this
file.

I think the problem could be for example how network-manager load the
key file which require a password to be load, maybe the file is loaded
before the key file's password is asked to gnome-keyring, i don't know
this is just an hypothesis without any foundation.

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[gutsy] network-manager i have to manually configure wpa/2 enterprise every 
time to connect
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132473
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