** Description changed: First: in my opinion this is NOT a duplicate of Bug #67175, because it affects the NEXT long term supported ubuntu. It is both, a bug for the former 6.06 LTS, the actual gutsy and a wishlist/bug for hardy (8.04 LTS). - It affects both the NFSv3/v4 and the CIFS(samba) network file system - support for ACL's of the ubuntu kernel and user tools - accordingly - patched get/setfacl - lacking of nfs4-acl-tools, see [3]. + It affects both the lacking NFSv3/v4 and the SMB(2)/CIFS network file + system support for ACL's of the ubuntu kernel and user tools. E.g. + accordingly patched get/setfacl, lacking of nfs4-acl-tools (see [3]) and + not compiled NFSv3 ACL support in the generic kernel. I am not a kernel developer but I cannot understand where the problem is, if major distributions (redhat/suse) seem to support nfs/cifs with acl out of the box - for about 2 years now (2005), right when ACL - support came for SMB (see [4] page 133). So the kernel must be major and - the tools exist. + support came for SMB (see [4] page 133). So the kernel support must be + mature and the user tools exist. - Because I consider this as a BUG concerning the ubuntu linux kernel - flavour and user tools, and cannot find any comment/roadmap from the - official side (canonical). I even don't see any effort being made on - giving a solution to both client and server's side. + I consider this as a BUG concerning the "ubuntu linux kernel" flavour + and "user tools" and cannot find any comment/roadmap from official side + (canonical) - except [3] - on giving a solution to both client and + server's side. I also asked for an answer here at lauchpad with Question #18907 (see - links below [1]). Please refer this question for additional information. - I also filed a Bug #173324 (Will nfs4-acl-tools bei in 8.04?). + links below [1]) and Bug #173324 (Will nfs4-acl-tools be in 8.04?). + Please refer this for additional information. . Conclusion: 1. With 8.04 LTS in mind there should be a clear statement concerning NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS + ACL support in the kernel, so customers could decide - and ubuntu would like to address customers wishes, do they ;) One should not be forced to recompile the kernel and loose support. 2. One also has to check/assure, that gnome, kde and xfce file managers are supporting mounted directories via nfs/smb/cifs and handle acl's properly. Sincerely yours Axel Links: - >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in NFS/CIFS linux development. + >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS linux development. [1] Question #18907 (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18907) [2] Ubuntu Forum - NFS problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339867&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.3290169355124337) [3] Ubuntu forum - NFS server not presenting ACLs (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428512&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.64162506203136) [4] PDF: Proceedings of the Linux Symposium 6-2007 - A New Network File System is Born: Comparison of SMB2, CIFS, and NFS (https://ols2006.108.redhat.com/2007/Reprints/french-Reprint.pdf) [5] PDF: Novell 5/2005 - Linux, Samba and ACLs: past, present, and future (http://www.sambaxp.org/uploads/media/05-Andreas-Gruenbacher_-_Linux_Samba_and_ACLs.pdf) [6] PDF: NAS Conference 2005 - NFSv4 Co-existence with CIFS in a Multi-protocol Environment (http://nasconf.com/pres05/hayden.pdf)
** Description changed: First: in my opinion this is NOT a duplicate of Bug #67175, because it affects the NEXT long term supported ubuntu. It is both, a bug for the former 6.06 LTS, the actual gutsy and a wishlist/bug for hardy (8.04 LTS). It affects both the lacking NFSv3/v4 and the SMB(2)/CIFS network file system support for ACL's of the ubuntu kernel and user tools. E.g. accordingly patched get/setfacl, lacking of nfs4-acl-tools (see [3]) and not compiled NFSv3 ACL support in the generic kernel. I am not a kernel developer but I cannot understand where the problem is, if major distributions (redhat/suse) seem to support nfs/cifs with acl out of the box - for about 2 years now (2005), right when ACL support came for SMB (see [4] page 133). So the kernel support must be mature and the user tools exist. I consider this as a BUG concerning the "ubuntu linux kernel" flavour and "user tools" and cannot find any comment/roadmap from official side (canonical) - except [3] - on giving a solution to both client and server's side. I also asked for an answer here at lauchpad with Question #18907 (see links below [1]) and Bug #173324 (Will nfs4-acl-tools be in 8.04?). Please refer this for additional information. . Conclusion: 1. With 8.04 LTS in mind there should be a clear statement concerning NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS + ACL support in the kernel, so customers could decide - and ubuntu would like to address customers wishes, do they ;) One should not be forced to recompile the kernel and loose support. 2. One also has to check/assure, that gnome, kde and xfce file managers are supporting mounted directories via nfs/smb/cifs and handle acl's properly. Sincerely yours Axel Links: >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS linux development. + >> [6] next NAS conference is this month 11/2007 (http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/news/conference2007.php) [1] Question #18907 (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18907) [2] Ubuntu Forum - NFS problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339867&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.3290169355124337) [3] Ubuntu forum - NFS server not presenting ACLs (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428512&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.64162506203136) [4] PDF: Proceedings of the Linux Symposium 6-2007 - A New Network File System is Born: Comparison of SMB2, CIFS, and NFS (https://ols2006.108.redhat.com/2007/Reprints/french-Reprint.pdf) [5] PDF: Novell 5/2005 - Linux, Samba and ACLs: past, present, and future (http://www.sambaxp.org/uploads/media/05-Andreas-Gruenbacher_-_Linux_Samba_and_ACLs.pdf) [6] PDF: NAS Conference 2005 - NFSv4 Co-existence with CIFS in a Multi-protocol Environment (http://nasconf.com/pres05/hayden.pdf) ** Description changed: First: in my opinion this is NOT a duplicate of Bug #67175, because it affects the NEXT long term supported ubuntu. It is both, a bug for the former 6.06 LTS, the actual gutsy and a wishlist/bug for hardy (8.04 LTS). It affects both the lacking NFSv3/v4 and the SMB(2)/CIFS network file system support for ACL's of the ubuntu kernel and user tools. E.g. accordingly patched get/setfacl, lacking of nfs4-acl-tools (see [3]) and not compiled NFSv3 ACL support in the generic kernel. I am not a kernel developer but I cannot understand where the problem is, if major distributions (redhat/suse) seem to support nfs/cifs with acl out of the box - for about 2 years now (2005), right when ACL support came for SMB (see [4] page 133). So the kernel support must be mature and the user tools exist. I consider this as a BUG concerning the "ubuntu linux kernel" flavour and "user tools" and cannot find any comment/roadmap from official side (canonical) - except [3] - on giving a solution to both client and server's side. I also asked for an answer here at lauchpad with Question #18907 (see links below [1]) and Bug #173324 (Will nfs4-acl-tools be in 8.04?). Please refer this for additional information. . Conclusion: 1. With 8.04 LTS in mind there should be a clear statement concerning NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS + ACL support in the kernel, so customers could decide - and ubuntu would like to address customers wishes, do they ;) One should not be forced to recompile the kernel and loose support. 2. One also has to check/assure, that gnome, kde and xfce file managers are supporting mounted directories via nfs/smb/cifs and handle acl's properly. Sincerely yours Axel Links: - >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS linux development. - >> [6] next NAS conference is this month 11/2007 (http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/news/conference2007.php) [1] Question #18907 (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18907) [2] Ubuntu Forum - NFS problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339867&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.3290169355124337) [3] Ubuntu forum - NFS server not presenting ACLs (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428512&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.64162506203136) [4] PDF: Proceedings of the Linux Symposium 6-2007 - A New Network File System is Born: Comparison of SMB2, CIFS, and NFS (https://ols2006.108.redhat.com/2007/Reprints/french-Reprint.pdf) [5] PDF: Novell 5/2005 - Linux, Samba and ACLs: past, present, and future (http://www.sambaxp.org/uploads/media/05-Andreas-Gruenbacher_-_Linux_Samba_and_ACLs.pdf) [6] PDF: NAS Conference 2005 - NFSv4 Co-existence with CIFS in a Multi-protocol Environment (http://nasconf.com/pres05/hayden.pdf) + + >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS linux development. + >> [6] next NAS conference is this month 11/2007 (http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/news/conference2007.php) ** Description changed: First: in my opinion this is NOT a duplicate of Bug #67175, because it affects the NEXT long term supported ubuntu. It is both, a bug for the former 6.06 LTS, the actual gutsy and a wishlist/bug for hardy (8.04 LTS). It affects both the lacking NFSv3/v4 and the SMB(2)/CIFS network file system support for ACL's of the ubuntu kernel and user tools. E.g. accordingly patched get/setfacl, lacking of nfs4-acl-tools (see [3]) and not compiled NFSv3 ACL support in the generic kernel. I am not a kernel developer but I cannot understand where the problem is, if major distributions (redhat/suse) seem to support nfs/cifs with acl out of the box - for about 2 years now (2005), right when ACL support came for SMB (see [4] page 133). So the kernel support must be mature and the user tools exist. I consider this as a BUG concerning the "ubuntu linux kernel" flavour and "user tools" and cannot find any comment/roadmap from official side (canonical) - except [3] - on giving a solution to both client and server's side. I also asked for an answer here at lauchpad with Question #18907 (see links below [1]) and Bug #173324 (Will nfs4-acl-tools be in 8.04?). Please refer this for additional information. . Conclusion: 1. With 8.04 LTS in mind there should be a clear statement concerning NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS + ACL support in the kernel, so customers could decide - and ubuntu would like to address customers wishes, do they ;) One should not be forced to recompile the kernel and loose support. 2. One also has to check/assure, that gnome, kde and xfce file managers are supporting mounted directories via nfs/smb/cifs and handle acl's properly. Sincerely yours Axel Links: [1] Question #18907 (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18907) [2] Ubuntu Forum - NFS problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339867&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.3290169355124337) [3] Ubuntu forum - NFS server not presenting ACLs (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428512&highlight=nfs%20acl#0.64162506203136) [4] PDF: Proceedings of the Linux Symposium 6-2007 - A New Network File System is Born: Comparison of SMB2, CIFS, and NFS (https://ols2006.108.redhat.com/2007/Reprints/french-Reprint.pdf) [5] PDF: Novell 5/2005 - Linux, Samba and ACLs: past, present, and future (http://www.sambaxp.org/uploads/media/05-Andreas-Gruenbacher_-_Linux_Samba_and_ACLs.pdf) [6] PDF: NAS Conference 2005 - NFSv4 Co-existence with CIFS in a Multi-protocol Environment (http://nasconf.com/pres05/hayden.pdf) - >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS linux development. - >> [6] next NAS conference is this month 11/2007 (http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/news/conference2007.php) + >> [4] gives a very excellent and detailed view of the actual state in + NFS/SMB(2)/CIFS linux development. -- Kernel ACL support for NFS/CIFS in 8.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173267 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
