> In the context of the issues we are seeing with charms the 10 minute > timeout should be sufficient.
right, but this isn't just changing rabbitmq-server used by charms, this is changing the behavior for *all* Ubuntu users of rabbitmq-server, as well as upstream. Since upstream did accept it, my *assumption* is yes, 10 minutes is a good default, but since mismatched timeouts is essentially the cause of this entire problem, I thought it was worth just re-checking again, to make sure we all thought about it carefully with *all users* in mind, before leaving it at that. To poke the thought button further, note that since the upstream (and f/g) service files also have 'Restart=on-failure' set, and will go 10 minutes (as configured with the TimeoutStartSec=600 param), the service is *effectively* set to never, ever timeout, since it will just restart itself each time it times out; as the StartLimitIntervalSec= and StartLimitBurst= will never be exceeded (since they default to 10s and 5, respectively). So, I suppose since the effective result is that in F and later (including upstream), the service will wait forever, with restart-on- failure happening every 10 minutes, until it successfully is able to start. With that in mind, I don't think the actual TimeoutStartSec= setting makes any difference at all (as long as it's long enough to avoid reaching the restart StartLimit settings), besides controlling how often the service logs a failure and then restart. I guess this all means that 1) the version in focal-proposed is correct, and 2) the xenial and bionic versions need the addition of TimeoutStartSec=600 and Restart=on-failure to their service file, right? Is that all that's needed? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1874075 Title: rabbitmq-server startup timeouts differ between SysV and systemd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rabbitmq-server/+bug/1874075/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs