Dear Erich

Thank you very much. I don't know if your target is closing things or
something else, but... Ignoring information, that release has got energy
problems on generic hardware, ideally confirms, what's the quality. I don't
know which package(s) is/are responsible for that, but in normal situation
somebody could at least ask for more info or something. I don't know also
what should be CPU usage (100%?), that could allow assigning it to bug
category, but generally it's very bad from quality perspective, that it's
ignored. Shame. I liked Ubuntu.

With kind regards
Marcin Wiacek

On Sat, 23 Apr 2022, 19:40 Erich Eickmeyer , <1970...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:

> Thank you for taking the time to report this issue and helping to make
> Ubuntu better. Examining the information you have given us, this does
> not appear to be a bug report so we are closing it and converting it to
> a question in the support tracker. We understand the difficulties you
> are facing, but it is better to raise problems you are having in the
> support tracker at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu if you are
> uncertain if they are bugs. You can also find help with your problem in
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> ** Changed in: ubuntu
>        Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Converted to question:
>    https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/701493
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> Title:
>   Ubuntu 22.04 much worse in energy saving than 21.10
>
> Status in Ubuntu:
>   Invalid
>
> Bug description:
>   My laptop was updated from 21.10 to 22.04 and has got much worse
>   battery work time (even about 30% or more). Standard Intel 11-gen with
>   integrated graphic, no external devices. Nothing special.
>
>   I'm looking into System Monitor and it looks, new release has various
>   processes, which are started quite regurarly and are enabling various
>   CPU cores. CPU usage is not high, but because it's regular and not
>   done on one core... well, it leads me to question - was somebody even
>   started thinking about it? Or just upgraded everything and was happy,
>   that it's working?
>
>   First of all it could be good to start something on next CPU cores
>   only, when previous one are too busy. I know, it's kernel scheduler
>   thing. Big problem.
>
>   About processes in idle mode (no keyboard and touchpad pressing, no
>   usb devices, no network, no sound playing, no camera enabled, nothing
>   started, really only desktop):
>
>   Xorg and gnome-shell - always doing something (+ shell is saving and
>   reading a lot from disk, which increases power usage too)
>
>   systemd-oomd - really? Started regularly, when I have even 20% RAM
>   used. There should be trigger saying "use it only when for example 80%
>   RAM is used"
>
>   i915_flip - don't know what do to with that. Have only laptop screen
>
>   snap-store and network manager - don't have network in this moment.
>   Really need to run it regurarly? it should be started, when network is
>   on
>
>   gsd-housekeeping - very often
>
>   snapd - even when I don't do anything
>
>   pulse - even when I don't have sound
>
>   update-notifier - what? even without network? this should be called
>   only, when normal updates are checked... and when I set "check for
>   updates daily" it should be called once a day only (or when network is
>   connected and last check was done more than 24 h ago)
>
>   I could give even much longer list and I could say "this is absolute
>   normal", but... 21.10 was much better. Could somebody take any device
>   and just start doing something about it ? CPU usage with spikes up to
>   20% in idle mode is not normal (earlier my powertop was showing about
>   50 events, now standard is 150 or 200)
>
>   Additionally it's not possible to enable automatic suspend in time
>   shorter than 15 minutes. Why? Why? Why?
>
>   PS. with development experience > 20 years I see, that somebody really
>   haven't looked on it from higher perspective (and now there is
>   required some project, in which it will be checked, how things are
>   working together).
>
>   PS2. well, this problem makes, that I need either to downgrade or move
>   to other distribution. And to clarify - I'm of course using various
>   power saving settings, like profile, etc. (installation and strategy
>   related to both versions are the same)
>
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