The other computer is now in the process of a Distribution Upgrade, so I think 
that problem went away or worked around when I did a terminal:
sudo update-manager -d without the -c. I had tried that before but then it 
didn't work later. thank, so you can probably close that part of the bug.

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sudo update-manager -d -c does not upgrade to latest version 8.04 
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