I am currently in India with limited bandwidth, so just some quick notes - I am not sure I am ready to move this to REVU just now, as I am not comfortable that I have been able to communicate what Java DB (or Derby) is ;) (sorry about that...)
It is *not just a library*. It is the leading [open source] Java database (like MySQL is the leading non-Java OS DB). Yes, it is *also* embeddable and other applications can embed derby.jar's classes. While probably not the right forum, why does the Java packaging policy insist on renaming and moving jars? jars are not just libraries, they are also applications/executables 'java ... -cp foo.jar' (like in Java DB/Derby). Finding the jars renamed and moved out of the product home directory would probably be somewhat confusing to users - and break both docs and user utilities for Java DB/Derby. Some comments re why Java DB over Apache Derby: * The Derby community is rather keen on keeping Derby platform independent, and I would not expect the community to provide platform specific packaging - that is where Java DB can help you as Sun does just that * Java DB is supported by the NetBeans IDE out of the box, used by the GlassFish application server and distributed with Sun's JDK 6 and should be there in this Java development to deployment environment. * You can buy enterprise 24/7 support for Java DB (but not if you run on binaries not 1:1 with the Java DB/Derby releases (which are in 100% sync)). By the way, Derby has build dependencies on other binaries like junit.jar (in Ubuntu, 4 different packages), DITA-OT1.1.2.1_bin-ASL.zip (not in Ubuntu), JSR169's jars (not in Ubuntu), and JDK 1.4.x (do not know the status of building Derby with the Blackdown Java binaries in Ubuntu, never heard of anyone trying it) - see http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html. These would also need to be made available if a Java DB/Derby Ubuntu package were to be built from source. Without having the above points clear, I fear a revu/motu discussion risk being in vain. Perhaps an offline discussion could be more fruitful? -- FeatureFreeze exception request for sun-javadb https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/192887 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
