Adrian R Goalby wrote: > I get the impression (whether right or wrong) that nothing is fixed in > Ubuntu, it just inherits fixes from upstream, Debian or security alerts. > A quick look in the bug database suggests there are 155,000 bugs ever reported against Ubuntu, and 46,000 marked fixed. That's from a team of 30 full time engineers and about 100 committed volunteers, an amazing effort by people who care about Ubuntu.
We do try to work closely with both upstream and Debian. In a collaborative ecosystem like the free software world, it is most efficient if each team is an expert in their field and there are really excellent tools for collaboration. This way, work happens where people are best suited to it, but good work is not trapped in one community, it spreads quickly throughout the ecosystem. Each upstream has people totally focused on that one component - they know more about it than anyone else. The piece of the puzzle that we most care about is the integration of those components into a coherent role. We see our contribution to the free software ecosystem primarily in providing a *release platform* on a predictable basis, against which folks can do development and deployment. It makes much more sense for us to specialize in that piece, because we have a real competence for it, and it requires generalists which is how I would describe our community and team. A bug reported against Inkscape in Ubuntu is very likely to be something that affects other communities and so needs to be looked at upstream, where the expertise in that codebase resides. Of course, Ubuntu users and developers will try to assess if the bug relates to packaging, in which case it is probably best analyzed by Ubuntu or Debian developers, depending on who did that work. In case you think Ubuntu doesn't make any contribution to those upstream projects and Debian, I would urge you to look at the relevant bug trackers, and search for patches contributed by Ubuntu developers. A huge amount of code is produced during the integration and testing part of building Ubuntu, and most of that flows to upstream and/or Debian. Though it isn't always well received, we do make a huge effort to cultivate a culture of work passing upstream. I don't mean to ask you to change your opinion, only to point out that one could draw different conclusions from a look at the actual data. And if you are willing to return the favour of Ubuntu, you might want to join the Ubuntu Bug Squad at https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad and triage a few bugs a day. Mark -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs