Hello,
I believe that this bug is not a duplicate of Bug #163206 so I changed
it.
Why I believe so:
Bug #163206 is discussing about "Non-translatable labels and launchers"
affecting internationalization in general. A comment confirms that
particular problem for Italian as well and so on...
On the other hand, the problem here, in this bug, Bug #210773, is
different and its Turkish-locale specific and I strongly believe that
its just an incidence of human mistake; a very big mistake indeed;
making it almost impossible for a non-linux-geek to install xubuntu
8.04.
My experience:
I made a distro upgrade to Xubuntu 8.04 via Web so almost all my
settings stayed as they were and there was no problem. Then after, I
added a new user. On the panel of the newuser there were Xfce Menu
("Xfce Menüsü" in Turkish),Places button, Firefox button, Help button,
time and quit buttons. These are ok. But under Xfce Menu, there were
only three items: About Xfce ("Xfce hakkında" in Turkish), Quit ("Çık"
in Turkish) and Help ("Kılavuz" in Turkish, being the very same
link/button seen as an independent button on the top panel). There were
no categories or anything related with the applications, neither the
choises related with settings. Means, a non-linux-geek practically can
not access any application.
After some discussions on IRC in #xubuntu, I discovered that there are
some lines missing in the home/newuser/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
file. (That file is attached; named new_menu.xml ) Then I copied the
menu.xml file for my default/main/primary user -my old settings with no
problem- and replaced it with the one ot the new user. (Attached; named
original_menu.xml ) Then the problem is solved because there were
missing lines in the new user's file. My old default user wasn't
affected because system recognized its old file and left untouched.
Broken file was coming with 8.04 and used when a new user added.
Then I realized something else: Take the Xubuntu 8.04 Desktop
Installation CD/Live CD; use it as a live CD and choose Turkish language
at the beginning. Result: Applications menu does not contain any
application but just those three elements: "Kılavuz", "Xfce Hakkında",
"Çık", means "Help", "About Xfce", "Quit". And nothing else.
To check if this bug is a duplicate of Bug #163206 or not; in other
words if this is a genelra internationalization problem which is
affecting Italian as well or not; I choose Italian as the language at
the beginning from the live CD. No, there exist the items under
applications menu. For Hebrew, again, items are there.
A reminder: In the live CD/Turkih option, although there is no menu.xml
file under home/.config/xfce4/desktop, You are able to copy the working
menu.xml file there (attached "original_menu.xml" for example named as
menu.xml) and whes you do so,aplivations and settings elements become
visible.
So I think that the problem is to skip/forget to impliment some lines in
that file.
If my conclution is valid, under the given conditions, in my opinion, a
non-linux-geek can not use Xubuntu. Its practically useless for ordinary
Turkish people. Because of this, I am increasing the importance level of
this bug.
Under the given conditions, I feel that the issue has nothing to do with
Xfce4 (Ubuntu) so I'm going to try to remove it.
Regards,
** Attachment added: "menus.tar.gz"
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14508023/menus.tar.gz
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Applications menu in foreign language displays only translated items (Xubuntu)
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