2008/6/13 Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> the informations you attached are about totem-xine, could you open a
> different bug about totem-gstreamer

Only if I can be at least somewhat sure isn't going to be closed
immediately after I file it.

>
> where did you get instruction saying to attach crash informations not
> using apport?

The point is, that no-where was I informed to use apport. I'm sure
somewhere it's mentioned, but certainly not on the pages I came along
while submitting the bug. And I did read several pages and help
screens.

http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ReportProblem
the screens from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug#form-start
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures

Those are the pages I can find about reporting bugs. "apport" can not
be found anywhere.
Not knowing I was supposed to use apport, I tried to be as helpful as
possible, appended the core dump along with gdb backtraces and the
lot.


> the reason why submitters are asked to use apport

It would be better to ask them to do that during the submittion
proces, not after.

> that's
> because it does the automatic debug retracing so users don't have to
> install debug variants,

But I already did that.

> and this way the crash is registered in the
> database for automatic duplication

If users report bugs without including requested information, I can
understand that this enoys the developers and that they sometimes
quickly close bugs. But you ou don't request apport reports to the
users before they file a bug (or while they read how to file a bug).

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