On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Stephen Piana schrieb: > ... > > I see, now I understand the problem pertaining to new users using the > > swiss remix distro they have too many options to choose from in the > > login area... > > Not really. If they start the live system and do nothing they will get Gnome > with German language and keyboard. They have the option of changing these > immediately after booting using using the F-keys described then. If they are > quick, they would have 10 seconds to change the language and desktop when the > login screen appears some minutes later, but sometimes it doesn't show and > most > people are too slow to react quickly enough the first time. They can get the > login back from Gnome by logging off and then (quickly) choosing "change > session" and/or "change language", retyping "ubuntu" and <return> for > password. > There is also a question for making the selections the default ones. It's > difficult enough that new users probably can't do it unless having read the > documentation. Therefore most new users will get Gnome in German, or the other > language chosen at boot time. Thus the options are there, but not easily used. > > After installing, it is similar and I guess most people won't even realise > that > they could switch to KDE4 or XFCE, but they will have most programs available, > e.g. Marble even with Gnome. (Marble is popular enough that there is a live > system just for starting this, with Swiss Remix you have this built in!) > > The main confusion results because different programs (e.g. file managers) > start > different other programs when clicking on files, but those who study the > choices > using right-click "open with..." will soon get unconfused. Right on!
Also (as I found out the other day) removing "unwanted" stuff is far from easy: Assume I want to go back to a gnome only (or at least gnome mostly) desktop I can't just remove [kx]ubuntu-desktop - this will leave a lot of KDE/XFCE stuff behind. There are ways described in the Ubuntu Wiki that do work, but those are not for the fainthearted. Frequently you can't just remove one component that annoys a user either - which is due to the package consistency checks and actually is a Good Thing - but doesn't help the user. @Dani: Maybe in addition to being able to *add* selected groups of packages from the swissremix ppa, there should also be an option to *remove* selected groups of packages again. Cheers, Wolf -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
