On 02/05/2010 01:34 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
I've done this, without effect. Clearly I need to dig a bit deeper on this one.On 5 February 2010 17:07, David A. Cobb<superbis...@cox.net> wrote:Again, recall I have "only" 256MiB real memory.Because of another problem, I can only do software upgrades from "Recovery Mode" -- single user console. If I try it while Gnome is running, the network speed is cut to around 1/60 of the speed I get from the console. I can't wait for two days to download the update packages.You don't have to reboot in order to shutdown X. Simply open another console by pressing alt+ctrl+F1, log in and run «sudo service gdm stop». That will shutdown X.
And my quote about the stated minimum is from the Ubuntu 9.10 Release Notes. I know the problem is in Gnome. That's why I'm posting to a "Desktop" discussion, not the kernel-team. It is certainly a usability issue for me! In fact, being geeky, I'm more ready to cut some slack than would be an "average" user.Anyway, when I reboot after an upgrade, it takes around 5 Minutes(!) to get the GDM login screen, and I have timed the system from the password entry to a functioning desktop at up to 15 Minutes. Yes, I can get up and brew a pot of coffee, and drink my first cup, before I can use the computer. As a user experience, this just sucks! And it doesn't help to have my dear wife looking over my shoulder and saying "Shirley doesn't have this problem with her Windows program!" (of course, Shirley also has a 2GiB memory) We are, supposedly, maturing to the point that Linux is a viable desktop for average users, not just 'puter-geeks like me.You're not complaining about Linux here, but Ubuntu and GNOME. Linux itself uses very little RAM. I agree that the spesified minimum requirements for Ubuntu could be set a little higher, or be more specific, but I don't think it's fair to call this a usability issue.
Hypothesis: every upgrade runs some "triggers for menu." When next booting into Gnome, the user's menus may need to be updated, so things that were previously cached and able to load quickly, now need to be rebuilt. Still, 10-15 minutes is a long time to wait!
If I were you, I'd try LXDE. It's _much_ less resource demanding and will make your desktop fly in comparison to GNOME. It's a small download and you can choose between GNOME and LXDE in the GDM login screen.
Ah! I'll give it a shot. Thanks much.
Best wishes, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
-- David A. Cobb -- computing t-rex
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