On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 02:16 +0000, Arand Nash wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 18:04 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > > > I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. > > The problems seemed to be similar: > > * Huge downloads > > * Opening and choosing first menu (e.g. "single player") often > > didn't work, there were no bots > > * Very slow load times > > (...) > We can't have both appealing 3D games and fast load times in my opinion so the problem isn't really a problem but a trade-off.
> I've tested both openarena and nexuiz. What about Warsow? I've found it the most compelling from all three games. It has a nice graphics and some nice concepts. I'm not sure if it has bots though. > And the only issue there is the indeed huge downloads (oa ~300MB nx ~900MB) Well, all games that have decent 3d graphic are going to take quite a lot of space. It shouldn't be a problem in my opinion. (Warsow is ~256MB btw). > They are in my opinion very straigtforward, 2-3 clicks and you're in a > singleplayer game with fully functional bots. > Both games also has a singleplayer "campaign" in the form of consecutive > unlockable skirmish-levels. > > However, what might speak against them is the ~18 rating that any of > these games would have if sold in stores, due to their violent and > meatpieces-flying-gory nature. Did Quake 3 get the ~18 rating somewhere? I think it's 15+ everywhere and I think the gore level there was similar. > > I installed Saurbraten and the ground didn't render. > > Sauerbraten has a very unfinished touch yes, which probably makes it > unsuitable for featuring. But I have ran it countless times without > seeing that issue. > > > For simple shoot-em-ups there is several games by Kenta Cho (nice search > term for USC) that might be worth a look, many are still dependent on 3D > drivers like chromium-bsu, but in my experience they seem vaguely > playable without them, whereas chromium-bsu just turns into sirup. > > I've added tumiki-fighters to the wiki, and I would propose this as a > replacement for chromium-bsu, since it seems to run very well on my > no-3D nouveau drivers. > One potential problem with these games is that they use the somewhat > unorthodox z-key as the fire-key, also, the homepage describes them as > "games for windows", but those are minor things I guess. > > > When it comes to Wine, if it is going to be mentioned on the installer > slideshow: > https://code.launchpad.net/~lielft/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/games-slide/+merge/15545 > > > does it not then make sense to have it in the featured section? > (I did even make a comment on the merge about the possibly overly > optimistic tone taken when describing Wine there...) I think promoting wine as a way of running games is a mistake if we don't say that it supports only a handful of them, often a lot of tweaking is required and it doesn't work well with all available 3d cards. Already there are a lot of people who are complaining that Wine doesn't support they favorite game X - if we promote it further the amount of complaints and disappointment is only going to increase. > - Arand > > -- Krzysztof Klimonda <kklimo...@syntaxhighlighted.com> PS Most FPS games shine only when users play them online - what if the newer version of the game that is incompatible with our version is released? 3 years is a lot of time to keep game that users can't play with friends anymore. I know it's not really a point of this post but it's something we should think about.
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