One more point. With GTK 3.10 from the PPA, I'm unable to build Epiphany 3.6 or even 3.8 - I see errors like these:

===
ephy-location-entry.c:584:36: error: 'GTK_STOCK_CLEAR' undeclared (first use in this function) image = gtk_image_new_from_stock (GTK_STOCK_CLEAR, GTK_ICON_SIZE_MENU);
                                   ^

ephy-location-entry.c:591:2: error: implicit declaration of function 'gtk_image_menu_item_new_with_mnemonic' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
 clear_menuitem = gtk_image_menu_item_new_with_mnemonic (_("Cl_ear"));
 ^
===

I have to update to Epiphany 3.10 to get a working build. This means that if you update to GTK 3.10 in Trusty, you may be forced to upgrade Epiphany (and perhaps other GNOME apps?) to 3.10 too. And so they'll look out of place on the Ubuntu desktop unless you do add their menubars back in this release.

adam

On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Adam Dingle <a...@medovina.org> wrote:
Sebastien, thanks for the update - it's great to know what's going on. I see GLib 2.39.1 in Trusty now and don't see WebKitGTK 2.3.1 yet, but I assume it will arrive soon. I installed GTK 3.10 from the PPA and it seems to be working pretty well so far.

In a previous message you wrote

>We are going to add menubars back to e.g evince, gnome-calculator, nautilus, etc (the plan is to upstream those patches, and to make the menubar be displayed in a conditional way depending of the environement, that's what is done already in gedit).

That's great. Do you think that will happen for 14.04? If so, are you planning to update these apps to version 3.10 in 14.04?

adam

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Sebastien Bacher <seb...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
Hey,

We got some work done so here is an update!

Le 05/11/2013 20:06, Sebastien Bacher a écrit :
* update glib to 2.40 (tracking 2.39 during the unstable cycle)


glib 2.39.1 is in trusty, thanks Ryan and Iain!

* update webkit to the current version

2.3.1 is in trusty (renamed to webkitgtk), thanks again Iain!


* GTK: the default option is to stay on 3.8, we are looking at updating to 3.10 though
Thanks to the tireless work from Lars we have candidate packages to test in the desktop ppa:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa

If you want to try those and give us feedback, that would be welcome

There is a list of known issues, including those resolved, in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1171587 If you use trusty the appmenu/messaging menu issues should be fixed, the overlay-scrollbar are about to land but there is a fixed version in the ppa as well.

The current version is having some known issues still:
- In the fileselector the Desktop icon is colored
- the fileselector default geometry can be a bit small for some screen configurations, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712288 - GtkInfoBar widgets are not being rendered correctly, there is a fix/workaround suggested in https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/dont-set-all-bgs/+merge/197234 - some GTK dialogs don't have there text wrapping as before (e.g the "do you want to save your work?" one that gedit displays when being close), https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719516

If you test the new version and notice new issues that are not mentioned on launchpad or in this email, feel free to follow up on the list or on the launchpad bug

Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher

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