On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 06:48 -0500, hggdh wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 08:56 +0100, Alex Jones wrote: > > > You wouldn't necessarily /need/ a new application to help the user > > remove it if it was packaged like I am suggesting. You'd remove the HSP > > and the installed and unneeded support packages could be apt-get > > autoremove'd. > > Why not create this database, create an interface to HAL, and then just > start what is signaled from HAL? This way we can still have a distro > that will allow the casual user to just plug and play -- which is, I > think, quite an important thing to have.
This isn't about running unnecessary services, it's about having them installed on your system in the first place. > On the other hand, I am not sure that I would like to have generic > autostart on a server. And, no matter what, I would really like *not* to > have autostarted what I do not want started, for whatever reason. We > should have an easy way of doing so. Having said what I've just said above, it would be nice if, whenever you hotplug a device, it gives you the option of what to do next, in a way similar to what happens when you plug removable media in. > > Sorted. As it happens, all of this stuff is just > > dependency of ubuntu-desktop, meaning that it all gets reinstalled every > > time I do a distribution upgrade. *Groan*. > > > > Yes, that bothers me also. And, on some servers, I do want X (for > example). Not sure what you're getting at here. You /do/ want X? Why is it a problem to remove ubuntu-desktop there, then? > > I've noticed that in my restricted drivers manager, it has chosen to > > install "Lucent/Agere lindmodem controller driver". I didn't even think > > I had a modem, and even if I did, I certainly have zero use for it. > > What's the point in knowingly "infecting" my system with closed-source > > kernel modules when you don't even know if I want it? > > Well, with all due respect, you already have infected your system with > closed-source module(s). I have? (Not that I'm normally that bothered about it.) > But I do see your point and, again, an > interface with HAL plus a DB could deal with it. As for the packaging of > all the restricted modules together, I have no opinion. Personally I don't see the reason to bundle restricted drivers together at all. In my opinion, we should have supported HSPs that are provided by Ubuntu/Canonical, and unsupported HSPs that can be provided by third parties. All of the current "restricted" drivers would be of the unsupported kind. I think this is a much more logical approach to everyone, including non-technical end-users. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
