Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > I read what you explained in the bug report, and here are a few remarks. > Clarifying the confusion around Preferences & Administration is IMHO a > good idea, since every base user seems to have problems with it. > > Naming them "User Preferences" and "System Administration" can be nice > since it's not too hard to change. Though, notice that the parent menu > is already named "System", so let's not end up with jokes like Start -> > Stop in Windows. If in "System" you have "System Administration" and > "User Preferences", this means that "User Preferences" is not a system > setting, and thus should not be there in the menu. This can look like a > detail, but IMHO it's important that we think of consistency. These > strings are also very long, and may not look nice. Maybe you could > simply rename them to "User Preferences" and "Administration", the > latter makes it quite clear that we're dealing with "hard" > configuration. Here I don't have a real solution, just some advice. ;-)
I thought about renaming "Preferences" to "My Preferences" because "User preferences" might be a very long label for some language. > Please also take care of not doing this change alone - you're aware of > that since you asked the list. This should be discussed with GNOME, > since they have the same issue. Moreover, PolicyKit is going to add many > changes in this domain, and maybe the distinction system-wide/user-only > will disappear soon. This will be a real problem while we are migrating, > and I'm glad you're caring about this now. Maybe the best solution would > be a single Control Center, which already exists. So please see this in > a long-term outlook, changes are likely to happen in the newt months. This is indeed true. I remember the Gnome Control Center were introduced to replace those two menu sets in feisty then removed after a few days. I think the reason was that a lot of people found that it was slower to access a menu item this way. A more professional solution would be to merge the configurations GUIs and use policy kit to hide System Wide tasks. But this takes time. I am really wondering if we shouldn't study this solution. Have a single GUI for Printing but hide some options using policy kit ... I'll think more clearly about this and I shall write here :-) > About renaming the configuration items to emphasize ("Set" and > "Modify")/("Manage", "System", "Global"), please don't do this! I just > managed to remove every piece of unneeded text there, and these > expressions are really useless: if the menu description is clear enough, > you know what you want to do, and you're just looking for the domain > (printing, screen...) you want to configure. Everything else is bloating > the menu - and will ask much work that cannot be unified in one package. > > And a detail: why do you make a so large list of packages to be > affected? gnome-menu should be (almost) the only one. well, this list was because I considered changing some menus entries by prepending "Set", "Modify", "Manage" . But I won't do it for the reasons you gave above. > > Just some (long) thoughts - good luck, it's not an easy issue > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss