Reply in-line :- On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:53, Martin Owens <docto...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What would be cool though is to know what kind of hardware are people using >> I know that currently we have a closed database which doesn't help anybody >> as the info. is requested repeatedly whenever a new bug is being registered. > > It's a set of nasty problems: > > 1) Device and/or hardware identification (not always easy) > 2) Filtering ambiguities and inaccuracies (take a look at smolt, how > many "O.E.M Fill in here" motherboards are there?) > 3) Supporting and structuring meta information, correct names, correct > manufacturers. Even so far as the list features and metrics, icons and > pictures. > 4) Centralising and analysing, you can't do this until you have 1 and 2. > Then you need everyone to be running on the same standard. > > Unfortunately, smolt and many other ideas have jumped straight to 4 > without considering that perhaps 1 and 2 are important to sort out > first. My own project, which I've shut down since, taught me a great > deal about some of these weird and wonderful issues. > > In conclusion, I believe that the way forward is to fix these issues: > > 1) Gather dmi, bios, i2c and other system information sources with > kernel level drivers able to deliver this information via sysfs or some > other mechanism.
Isn't this possible today ? Consequently, a list of information needed could/should be put up somewhere. Most probably the wiki could be a good place to put it up. As far as OEM mobos are concerned, have no idea. > 2) Populate and structure Hal (and it's replacement) in such a way to > accommodate this "none functional" information sources. This includes > being able to distinguish between a hardware object and a device object. > 3) Be able to generate a unique hardware class ids that allow > destinations, even when normal class ids are the same (examples of > scanners, phones, motherboards with the same usb or pci ids but > different metrics) HAL's replacement being devicekit, https://edge.launchpad.net/devicekit http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/DeviceKit/DeviceKit.7.html would that have any benefits in getting some of the issues you talked about? > Only then can you start fixing this problem properly. > > Regards, Martin Owens Thank you for taking time and explaining everything so well. Would like to know a bit more about the project you tried Martin Owens. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss