On Wednesday 01 April 2009 6:02:38 am John Vivirito wrote: > On 03/31/2009 06:19 PM, Evan wrote: > > While apt, synaptic, update-manager, and gnome-app-install all do decent > > jobs of providing front-ends for package management, there are a few issues > > and common feature requests which bear taking a look at. This is a strawman, > > so feel free to rip it apart as necessary. > > > > PolicyKit > > Synaptic runs fully as root. Unless there is a specific reason not to, > > should it not be migrated to PolicyKit? > > > > The reason they start up as root is because other than browsing the > packages is to install/remove and change repo settings. Most people that > browse packages will install at least one. I guess i don't get the idea.
Until I learned about dpkg -l and apt-cache version, I looked in Synaptic to find out version numbers. Until I learned about apt-cache search, I used Synaptic to find out package names to tell people to install. I'd say browsing the packages to avoid those commands or due to ignorance of those commands is a normal thing for anyone that doesn't sit around reading dpkg and apt-cache's manpages for fun. > > Modal Dialogues > > All three of the GUIs currently use modal dialogues for the actual > > download/install process, and this is considered a usability issue AFAIK > > (I'm not a usability expert by any stretch of the imagination, please > > correct me if I'm wrong). I believe most people would like to be able to > > continue browsing available applications, or reading changelogs of updates > > while the packages are downloading and installing. > > What do you mean as a usability feature more so than "issue" You can't run two apt-get commands at the same time, but you can certainly do apt-cache commands while an apt-get is running. This'd be the equivalent. > > Queuing > > The ability to start an install process, and then decide to queue another > > app to install / update after the first is finished. > > > > Parallelism > > Starting the install process in parallel with the download process as soon > > as the first packages are finished downloading. (I got this idea from > > brainstorm, but I can no longer find the relevant idea.) > > By this you mean being able to browse packages while upgrade/install > packages? Than start download of the packages you choose to upgrade/install? > I dont remember off hand why we only let one apt/dpkg run at one time > but it has been that way a long time IIRC. > IMHO this idea can cause problems, example: It can cause corrupt > files/links. Now I'm not sure how true this is If this is wrong please > feel free to comment. As above...two apt-get's can't run simultaneously, but "apt-get install foo ; apt-get install bar" is certainly valid. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo
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